• freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 months ago

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/3001363

    You’re saying that industry was plundered without looking at the context, which is that industry was massively expanded in Poland under Soviet economic policy. The fact that machinery was appropriated and reallocated throughout the USSR is precisely what one would expect if a nation that was under the bourgeois rule of production anarchy was suddenly and necessarily integrated into a centrally planned system following the destruction of the most powerful bourgeois military ever fielded at the time.

    The idea that you consider the removal of pipeline to be national plundering but ignore the expansion of heavy industry under the Soviet economic program shows you don’t have a grip on what plunder means. You could count any reallocation of machinery as plunder if you are willing to ignore the entire other half of the balance sheet. The real plunder is national wealth, social services for the masses, food stores to stave off famine, art and cultural relics, etc. There was some of that, again, not to the extent of the West, but it’s worth noting. But power plant machinery? Please. You pretend that the USSR plunged Poland into an agrarian bronze age when the exact opposite is true.

    Stop carrying water for the rich elite and the petite bourgeoisie who lost their livelihoods when communism came in.

    You think 14 paper factories is worthy of inclusion in the national wealth of Poland and supports your claim of national plunder? Foolish.

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      2 months ago

      https://www.researchgate.net/publication/365316318_Stosunki_gospodarcze_miedzy_Polska_a_ZSRR_Economic_relations_between_People’s_Poland_and_the_USSR

      For some reason some Western and all of Russian researchers say that P oland being occupied by USSR did wonders to Polish economy, while Polish researchers say otherwise. I wonder why. Oh, btw, the same is true if you look at any other colonized country.

      The idea that you consider the removal of pipeline to be national plundering but ignore the expansion of heavy industry under the Soviet economic program shows you don’t have a grip on what plunder means. You could count any reallocation of machinery as plunder if you are willing to ignore the entire other half of the balance sheet.

      You mean rebuying similar equipment to stolen one, from USSR, on credit, and then processing the resources for them and selling them back by the price USSR dictated?

      You pretend that the USSR plunged Poland into an agrarian bronze age

      I did nothing of the sort. You said you’re unaware of systematic wealth transfer, plunder, by USSR. So I showcased, with sources, an example of that.

      Foolish

      Yes. So far you’ve proven that you’re unable to think or say that USSR did anything wrong, and glorify all the actions undertaken.

      If that’s not romanticizing, I don’t know what is.