Explanation: “We should bring back the guillotine” or similar is a common internet quip in response to billionaires doing billionaire things, when in reality the guillotine was invented to provide equal and humane deaths to people of all classes, and from there it was always a tool of the state rather than the people. Not the best euphemism for “we should depose the bourgeoisie.” In fact plenty of Revolutionary justice folks were themselves offed by the guillotine during the Terror.

  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.ioOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    7 days ago

    It didn’t, though. See my previous comment. The French Revolution started as everyone trying to figure out a way to make the bankrupt French Treasury not bankrupt.

    • guy@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 days ago

      Ah yes. I’m sure the starving peasants who did the uprising was very concerned about the treasury and not avoiding starvation by misrule.

            • guy@piefed.social
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              6 days ago

              If you’re going to reason like that, the king than led the revolution. I enjoy debating, but not with dumb arguing like this.

            • breecher@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              6 days ago

              The part following the calling of the Estates General. You know, the actual Revolution. You seem intently focused on the phases just prior to the actual Revolution for some bizarre reason.

    • breecher@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      6 days ago

      That is a disingenous description. You are just describing the initial phase, basically even before the Revolution even started. It very quickly escalated to become something very different.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.ioOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        6 days ago

        The other person said the French Revolution was a violent uprising by hungry peasants, so by that description even the initial phase should be a violent uprising. If they wanted to make a more nuanced point they should and could have.

        • guy@piefed.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          6 days ago

          Well that was me. I believe most people would associate the French revolution with “eat cake” and blood flowing on the streets of Paris. So yeah, a violent uprising by hungry peasants.

          • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.ioOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            6 days ago

            So most people associate the French Revolution with events that either never happened (“eat cake” is ahistorical) or weren’t nearly as prominent as portrayed, and? We’re talking about the real French Revolution here, which was absolutely not like that. If you disagree, you’ll need some sources.

            • guy@piefed.social
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              6 days ago

              Do you want me to provide sources telling you that people starved, that the peasants rose up and executed their king in addition to a lot of other people during the french revolution?

              What the hell is this? History revisionism regarding the french revolution, what is your goal here? Are you Louis XVI ghost?

              The French revolution was absolutely a class war with the under class literally overthrowing the ruling class and executing them with a guillotine, which makes your meme wrong. No matter how you try to spin the French revolution this stands.

              Jesus fuck man.

              • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.ioOP
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                6 days ago

                Do you want me to provide sources telling you that people starved, that the peasants rose up and executed their king in addition to a lot of other people during the french revolution?

                God, wow. You do realize the king was condemned to execution by a vote at the National Convention after a long trial right? The peasants didn’t execute their king; the sitting government did.

                The French revolution was absolutely a class war with the under class literally overthrowing the ruling class and executing them with a guillotine,

                Source? With sections and quotes, please. At the very least name one time period of the Revolution, because the Thermidorians definitely weren’t executing the ruling class.