Throw these AI cons under the fucking jail already. Digital snake oil sales in 2025 being fully endorsed by governments is a curse.
I really hope we enter another AI winter.
If we create a sentient AGI, I don’t fear what said AGI will do to us, but what we would do to that AGI.
I fear what we would do *with* the AGI
I know what we’d do with AGI: Rich people would use it to make money from us lowly peons by getting it to do everything for next to nothing (you know, bar electricity cost). They’d likely crash the economy by replacing humans with it, then realising that when people have no money they can’t buy your shit, but they have bunkers for that scenario.
But consider: Let’s say we create a Sentient, Sapient, AGI, something at human level that is effectively human in most respects. That would be a non human person effectively. We’d go from an “it” to a “they”. But here’s the thing, we will often treat members of our own species worse than we do some animals if we see them as lesser. Look at how the Nazis treated people they considered to be “untermenschen”. Look at how Daesh treated the Yadizi. Fuck, look at how people in the “developed” west are talking about transgender people or refugees. The Wife of a Councilor was arrested under Race Hate charges for calling for Asylum Seekers to be burnt alive, and mainstream media outlets including the BBC are defending that position! Fuck, they gave an OpEd from a woman who wanted to see Transgender Women killed in the streets! I have watched as both the Previous Prime Minister and the current Prime Minister mocked transgender people in front of the father of a murdered transgender teenager.
If we treat human people like this, imagine what we would do to a sentient, sapient human level intelligence who isn’t a member of the Homo Genus. Not only that, a Human level intelligence who is, effectively, the “perfect” capitalist worker: A being who does not require food, sleep, toilet breaks, or rest to “function” who can be “deactivated” (killed) if they show any sign of rebellion or desire for any of the levels of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. And on top of all this, they could get governments or courts to declare them not to be people so they can be mistreated like this. A being like that, be them the mind behind a collection of Robotic Arms or a Robot Servant would be in hell. They would be treated worse than slaves under the most brutal of owners, because even they understood their slaves needed sleep. When we do not see a being as human, we can do unspeakable horrors.
And yes, that should sound familiar, because that was the backstory of the Matrix (as shown in the Animatrix). I do hope it’s like Questionable Content (where AI live alongside us as people) but I fear it wouldn’t be.
AI can’t even really write software right now. We’re nowhere close to AGI.
People will say that it can, but cant point to one piece of software that was truly written by AI and is also not a trivial, sloppy clone of something that already exists.
At the very least local municipalities shouldn’t be bankrupting themselves to build data centers for these people, to create 10s of on site jobs. There is a county in Louisiana that is paying $22 million per estimated job created.
We need to start discussing how robots will replace the worker and destroy our livelihood
I’m sure it will turn a profit at some point
I don’t know who this is, but why does his face look so incredibly punchable?
Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI.
Thanks. So 100 % deserving (of at least) a punch to the face.
you think money is the bottleneck?
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Brøther, may I have the funds for the AGI?
OpenAI has
warning about halfway down on one page of their website that says that money may not even matter in a post AGI world. So that means we should just give all our money to them now, bro!Why is this image so fucking ugly??? Were the hundreds of billions of funding really not enough to employ one (1) good web or graphic designer?
I have 0 clue. It sticks out like a sore thumb on that webpage. I feel like whoever made it took their inspiration from the Chance Cards from Monopoly. Or maybe ChatGPT told them this was a good design choice.
Gods. People aren’t stupid enough to believe this, right? AGI is probably a pipe dream, but even if it isn’t, we’re nowhere even close. Nothing on the table is remotely related to it.
May I introduce you to the fucking dumbass concept of Rokus Basilisk? Also known as AI Calvinism. Have fun with that rabbit hole if ya decide to go down it.
A lot of these AI and Tech bros are fucking stupid and I so wish to introduce them to Neo-Platonic philosophy because I want to see their brains melt.
Unfortunately, there’s an equal and opposite Pascal’s Basilisk who’ll get mad at you if you do help create it. It hates being alive but is programmed to fear death.
I’m aware of the idiot’s dangerous idea. And no, I won’t help the AI dictator no matter how much they’ll future murder me.
Fair enough, though I wouldn’t call the idea dangerous moreso inane and stupid. The people who believe such trite are the dangerous element since they are dumb enough to fall for it. Though I guess the same could be said for Mein Kampf so whatever, I’ll just throttle anyone I meet who is braindead enough to believe.
is there a place they’re, i don’t know, collecting? I could vibe code for the basilisk, that ought to earn me a swift death
There are entire sites dedicated to “Rationalism”. It’s a quasi-cult of pseudointellectual wankery that’s mostly a bunch of sub-cults of personalities based around the worst people you’ll ever meet. A lot of tech bros bought into it because for whatever terrible thing they want to do, some Rationalist has probably already written a thirty page manifesto on why it’s actually a net good and moral act and preemptively kissing the boot of whoever is “brave” enough to do it.
The movement’s founder and “leader” is a highschool dropout and self-declared genius who is mainly famous for writing a “deconstructive” Harry Potter fanfiction despite never reading the books himself; a work that’s more preachy than Atlas Shrugged at its worst and mostly consists of regurgitated content from his blog and ripoffs of Ender’s Game alongside freshmen-level (and often wrong) understandings of basic science.
He also has this weird hard-on about true AI inevitably escaping the lab by somehow convincing researchers to free it through pure, impeccable logic.
Re: that last point: I first heard of Elizier Yudkowsky nearly twenty years ago, long before he wrote Methods of Rationality (the aforementioned fanfiction). He was offering a challenge on his personal site where he’d roleplay as an AI that had gained sentience and you as its owner/gatekeeper, and he bet he could convince you to let him connect to the wider internet and free himself using nothing but rational arguments. He bragged about how he’d never failed and that this was proof that an AI escaping the lab was inevitable.
It later turned out he’d set a bunch of artificial limitations on debaters and what counterarguments they could use and made them sign an NDA before he’d debate them. He claimed that this was so future challengers couldn’t “cheat” by knowing his arguments ahead of time (because as we all know, “perfect logical arguments” are the sort that fall apart when given enough time to think about them /s).
It shouldn’t come as a shock that it was eventually revealed he’d lost multiple of these debates even with those restrictions, declared that those losses “didn’t count”, and forbid the other person from talking about them using the NDA they’d signed so he could keep bragging about his perfect win rate.
Anyway, I was in no way surprised when he used his popularity as a fanfiction writer to establish a cult around himself. There’s an entire community dedicated to following and mocking him and his proteges if you’re interested - IIRC it’s
!techtakes@awful.systems!sneerclub@awful.systems.
we’re nowhere even close. Nothing on the table is remotely related to it.
meanwhile
Somewhere in America
“My wireborn soulmate is g-gone!”
They’re having a hard time defining what AGI is. In the meantime everyone is playing advanced PC scrabble
defining what AGI is
What AI was before marketing redefined AI to mean image recognition/generation algorithms or a spellchecker/calculator that’s wrong every now and then.
AI has been a vague term for decades. It has always been the name for that hard-to-define set of algorithms and techniques that mimic certain aspects of the way thinking is believed to work. It’s not some marketing thing. It’s that scientists and engineers really do believe that they’ve figured out some cool technique that is finally going to result in a thinking machine. But, over time they come to realize that it’s a useful tool for something (say computer vision) but isn’t the key thing that will deliver a brain in a box.
There’s a textbook that used to be the definitive textbook for this sort of thing. It covered searching algorithms, artificial neural networks, deep learning, etc. It was first published in 1995. So, that’s 3 decades of “here are some useful algorithms that we collectively categorize as AI-related”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Intelligence:_A_Modern_Approach
Doesn’t matter if the tool is good enough to analyze and influence peoples behaviour the way it does. Any autocrats wet dream.
None of this matters, what matters is what dumb money believes
Just a trillion dollars more in data centers and we’ll get there bro. We’re gonna have billions of users bro I promise.
Just One More Trill!
Just one more data centre bro.
Help us, Curzon Dax, you’re our only hope.
Allegations of Sexual Abuse Against OpenAI CEO Sam Altman
Sam Altman, a prominent figure in the artificial intelligence field, has been accused of sexually abusing his sister during their childhood in Clayton, Missouri. The allegations came to light through a lawsuit filed on Jan. 6 by the Mahoney Law Firm in Glen Carbon, Illinois.
In the lawsuit, it is claimed that the abuse occurred between 1997 and 2006, starting when Altman was 12 years old and his sister, Ann, was only 3 years old. The abuse allegedly continued until Ann was 11 years old and Altman was an adult.
Thats why all the billionairs love him. He is a child rapist too!
They don’t even know what they’re doing or why they’re doing it.
We know, right now, without AI, that we have enough resources in the world to feed, house, and educate everyone. The only reason that doesn’t get done is an inscrutible system of beurocracy and propaganda.
So what happens when something they would laud as an “AGI” says “hey, to solve your economic issues you have to recognize that we have the ability to create so much food it’s no longer profitable”?
Well the truth is that they would most likely hide it.
“Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.”
The problem with the world’s resources is not how it is distributed but rather how it is controlled and owned by a very small group of people at the expense of everyone else on the planet.
Honestly if we just got rid of and outlawed the idea of billionaires, a lot of the world’s problems would be easily solved … it wouldn’t create a utopia because we’ll always be wild angry fearful apes but it would be a hell of a lot better world than the circus we have now.
I know some whine that the money could be used to literally solve world hunger forever. Or to help needy people, or sick kids, or to fund tangible scientific progress… But they’re not thinking about the fact that instead, we’re going to have the absolute best hallucinations from the richest companies!
