• Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Seems like a good spot for this:

    Nonviolence works the same way: if you’re engaging with someone / some group who isn’t violent, there’s an expectation that you’ll also remain nonviolent. If they pull a gun on you and you happen to be packing (and a quick shot) and shoot em dead, that does NOT bring you down to their level.

    • RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      From the German constitution:

      Anyone who abuses the freedom of expression, in particular the freedom of the press (Article 5 para. 1), the freedom of teaching (Article 5 para. 3), the freedom of assembly (Article 8), the freedom of association (Article 9), the secrecy of letters, mail and telecommunications (Article 10), the property (Article 14) or the right of asylum (Article 16a) to fight against the free democratic basic order, forfeits these fundamental rights. The forfeiture and its extent are pronounced by the Federal Constitutional Court.

      • masquenox@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        to fight against the free democratic basic order,

        Wold be nice if “liberal democracy” consisted of anything that can be called democratic with a straight face - perhaps then Germany wouldn’t be one of Israel’s most vitriolic genocide enablers.

          • masquenox@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            You did know there’s a western-backed genocide being perpetrated in Palestine right now, right?

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                1 year ago

                You mean… apart from the fact that Germany is funding, supporting and enabling Israel’s genocide?

                • RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works
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                  But what does this have to do with democracy? If the elected parties fund a war, morally correct or not, it is still democracy as they were chosen. There are multiple German parties who oppose Israel, but they weren’t elected

        • RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works
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          1 year ago

          There also is this section:

          Parties that, according to their goals or the behavior of their supporters, aim to impair or eliminate the free democratic basic order or to endanger the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany are unconstitutional.

  • Reddfugee42@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    That’s conservative ideology. Liberal only means not conservative. Stop trying to pretend that liberal means centrist. There’s already a word for that. It’s centrist.

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      1 year ago

      Liberal is the opposite of authoritarian. Progressive is the opposite of conservative. American 1 dimensional politics does not define all of political conversation.

      • masquenox@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Liberal is the opposite of authoritarian.

        Riiiight… until you threaten their precious private property, capitalism, and/or imperialism. Then you quickly see liberals singing the same song fascists do.