10k? 100k? A million?

I am not talking about calculating with numbers, but rather the point where numbers stop being comprehensible, or “no longer mean anything”.

Try visualizing exactly 10000 apples in your mind.

Edit: What I’ve gathered so far from the answers:

Visualizing: <10

  • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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    Visualization and symbolics are not the only way we comprehend numbers. My mind has the ability to recognize astonishingly broad temporal intervals with remarkable accuracy. I can express the interval using numbers. Does that mean I am able to fully comprehend a number like in “90 minutes?”

    I am able to remember sets of things, and distinguish all of the members of that set, up to very large numbers. It would not be unusual for a teacher to be able to call to mind every one of a couple hundred students currently attending their school. If I can manage a set of a particular size in my mind (whether or not I can visualize all the members of that set simultaneously) do I not have some comprehension of that number? What if every student is assigned an integer from a contiguous series, and I can remember each student’s id number?

    Some people cannot visualize at all. Do they fail to comprehend every number?

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      Yes I believe there’s an over-emphasis on the visual here. There’s a low limit on how many distinct objects we can perceive visually at once but that’s not entirely the same as what numbers we can grasp and comprehend.

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        10 hours ago

        There’s also conflation with the number of “chunks” we can hold in mind at a time, which is often estimated at about seven things. But that doesn’t mean we don’t comprehend what eight is.

        Numbers are DEEP. You can’t just know things about a number, you have to discover them empirically, experimentally. Every number has essentially infinite properties and you can’t know everything about a number, but you get a familiarity with them. Still, even the simplest numbers have the capacity to surprise in the right context.