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    Dude explicitly doesn’t want to build anything outside the ballot box.

    I’ve explicitly said otherwise, and in conversations with you, no less. But don’t let that stop your attempt to pretend that supporting genocide is somehow justified because “A DemSoc I called a lib was mean to me :'(”

    In fact, he considers any alternative than capitalist liberal democracy as “fascism” and would support even violent paramilitary suppression of such.

    lmao

    Because I regard elections as preferable to a coup explicitly along Bolshevik lines? Bolshevik lines being, in the case that we discussed, quite literally the dissolution of a leftist democratic government the year before?

    Nothing like supporting the Vanguard Party suppressing democratic elections to really be a good anarchist, huh?

    Astounding that you prefer the taste of boot leather to the horrible position of opposing genocide.

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      I’ve explicitly said otherwise, and in conversations with you, no less. But don’t let that stop your attempt to pretend that supporting genocide is somehow justified because “A DemSoc I called a lib was mean to me :'(”

      Lol ye I already saw your opinion on what you would support if an actual alternative outside the ballot existed. You’d go full fash :D

      Nothing like supporting the Vanguard Party suppressing democratic elections to really be a good anarchist, huh?

      The democratic elections that ultimately brought about Hitler. Sure, one of us definitelly supports a path that leads directly to fascism.

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        Lol ye I already saw your opinion on what you would support if an actual alternative outside the ballot existed. You’d go full fash :D

        … the “actual alternative outside the ballot” being proposed was a literal fucking coup explicitly along the lines of the ideology that had overthrown a democratically elected leftist government the year before.

        “If you don’t support fascism with red paint, you’re the real fascist!”

        And you wonder why I call you a tankie apologist.

        The democratic elections that ultimately brought about Hitler. Sure, one of us definitelly supports a path that leads directly to fascism.

        The dissolution of the united front brought down the left coalition in Weimar Germany, which brought about Hitler. The KPD, whose boots your are insistently licking, withdrew from the united front, at the behest of Stalin.

        But tell me more about how your proposed fascist coup would have stopped fascism!

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          I’m sure the paramilitary murders from the SPD had nothing to do with that.

          It’s also fascinating how everything outside of capitalist liberal democracy is “fascist” to you now. Literally zero understanding of fascism. You sound like that meme from the Venezuelan diplomat.

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            I’m sure the paramilitary murders from the SPD had nothing to do with that.

            You think Stalin ordered the KPD to stop cooperating with leftist parties in Weimar Germany because the SPD stopped a coup attempt a decade earlier?

            Comrade Stalin, just looking out for the moral purity of his German comrades, huh?

            It’s also fascinating how everything outside of capitalist liberal democracy is “fascist” to you now. Literally zero understanding of fascism. You sound like that meme from the Venezuelan diplomat.

            … an attempt to implement a totalitarian authoritarian state based on military force and imposing the will of a small party on a wider population under the justification that the will of the minority knows best is generally pretty close to fascism, yes.

            I suspect few anarchists would agree with simping for that, but hey, you’ve certainly proved you’re not like other anarchists. Very far from them, in fact!

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              Given that you’ve literally painted every anarchist you’ve interacted in lemmy as “fascist” and “tankie”, it seems that we’re all more closer ideologically to each other than you claim. But you’re probably confusing us with the ideal “anarchist” in your head, who happens to sound something like Pugjesus apparently :D

              For you, much like the tankies you paint us as, a good Anarchist is the one who acts like you want them to act.

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                Given that you’ve literally painted every anarchist you’ve interacted in lemmy as “fascist” and “tankie”,

                Fucking what?

                But you’re probably confusing us with the ideal anarchist in your head, who happens to sound something like Pugjesus apparently :D

                No? The ideal anarchist sounds nothing like me. I speak to anarchists on here all the fucking time - but I guess you only understand your own narrow social circle, wherein anarchy is somehow compatible with Holodomor denial and Uyghur genocide.

                You’ll do anything to simp for fascist hierarchies, I guess.

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                  Fucking what?

                  you’ve literally painted every anarchist you’ve interacted in lemmy as “fascist” and “tankie”,

                  I speak to anarchists on here all the fucking time

                  Name one.

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                    you’ve literally painted every anarchist you’ve interacted in lemmy as “fascist” and “tankie”,

                    lmao

                    Name one.

                    Rockerface. Was that supposed to be some kind of gotcha? You could’ve at least said “Name ten” and made me think for a few moments.