Starting with this post:

https://sh.itjust.works/post/44999037

Continues here:

https://sh.itjust.works/post/45035437

More posts discussing the fallout:

Dbzer0 admin claiming Uyghur genocide is ‘overblown and misrepresented’

Dbzer0 admin casually defending Uyghur genocide denial because “libs worse”, yikes

Banned from meanwhileongrad for “No db0 allowed”.

On Dbzer0, ‘harassing mods’ is when you criticize the top admin of .ml for responding to a Wiki link with a Lemmy search

Does lemmy.ml own db0? db0 denies the Uyghur genocide, begins to backtrack that maybe there are human rights abuses, and then immediately backs off as soon as lemmy.ml admin, Davel, steps in.

Tankie bar, db0, will remove your comments and ban you if you criticise lemmy.ml admin, Davel, for denying the Uyghur genocide

When the tankie bar, db0, is pushed about communists purging peasants, Davels swoops in with dehumanisation. Also, if you bring up the Holodomor then you’re a nazi.

Removed false allegations against goat from a post on db0

An anarchist tankie did a write-up of the constant use of ‘degenerate’ as an insult specifically in the MoG comm

Another anarchist tankie did a write-up of the situation

More links: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52444570

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/329886

https://sh.itjust.works/post/151703/234360

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/338067

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    9 天前

    Your first example of an “anarchist you talk to all the time” is a person who became an anarchist less than a year ago.

    So now it’s not

    but the one person (you claim is an anarchist) that hangs out with goat all the time, is gone. Figures.

    It’s that they ‘just became’ an anarchist.

    I can name other anarchists I talk to regularly, but it’s clear from your about-face here that you don’t actually give a fuck about any of your claims, you just want to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.

    Every anarchist with years of experience, you’ve labeled as a “tankie” and a “fascist”.

    lmao

    “No TRUE Scotsman”

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      61·
      9 天前

      So now it’s not

      Not what I said, but of course you’re incapable of acting in good faith even for a second.

      It’s that they ‘just became’ an anarchist.

      I can name other anarchists I talk to regularly, but it’s clear from your about-face here that you don’t actually give a fuck about any of your claims, you just want to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.

      No, it’s ok. Your first example proved everything I wanted it to prove for anyone still paying attention to you. It’s clear anarchists are just a useful tool to you, to be discarded when they don’t serve your purpose, much like they are for the tankies.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        15·
        9 天前

        Not what I said, but of course you’re incapable of acting in good faith even for a second.

        but the one person (you claim is an anarchist) that hangs out with goat all the time, is gone. Figures.

        Is a literal and direct quote. Holy fuck. Are you this detached from reality?

        No, it’s ok. Your first example proved everything I wanted it to prove for anyone still paying attention to you. It’s clear anarchists are just a useful tool to you, to be discarded when they don’t serve your purpose, much like they are for the tankies.

        You literally discarded the example of an anarchist I gave to you when asked because they didn’t fit your preconception of what an anarchist is - namely, someone who’s okay with Holodomor denial, like you are.

        Your projection is top-notch, as always.

        • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          71·
          9 天前

          Is a literal and direct quote. Holy fuck. Are you this detached from reality?

          Did I deny they’re an anarchist? I said you claimed it, because I didn’t know this person. Then I checked and adjusted my statements. Any more uncharitable shit you have to throw?

          You literally discarded the example of an anarchist I gave to you when asked because they didn’t fit your preconception of what an anarchist is

          EDIT:

          “No TRUE Scotsman”

          This doesn’t argue the way you think it argues. But it is very funny.

          “Every principled anarchist with years of experience in the movement is a tankie and a fascist, but this baby anarchist right here that happens to agree with me, is the true anarchist!”

          • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            15·
            9 天前

            Did I deny they’re an anarchist?

            but the one person (you claim is an anarchist) that hangs out with goat all the time, is gone. Figures.

            “I didn’t say it, I implied it.”

            So THAT’S what a weasel sounds like! I always wondered.

            Then I checked and adjusted my statements.

            By ‘adjusted’ you mean ‘rejected them as irrelevant’

            But according to you, that’s not ‘discarded’, because you lack a basic understanding of the English language or any of the words you use. That, presumably, is why you think anarchism means supporting genocide and fasicsm.

            This doesn’t argue the way you think it argues.

            Oh, how ironic.

            No True Scotsman is about refining a claim ex post facto after its been disproven. From “No Scotsman” to “No TRUE Scotsman”

            Or here, “No anarchist” to “No EXPERIENCED anarchist”. Not that that’s true either, but it shows where your mindset is.

            Sorry that your understanding of logical fallacies is as meagre as your understanding of history, politics, and the English language itself.

            • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              71·
              9 天前

              “I didn’t say it, I implied it.”

              That’s your uncharitable reading, not what I wrote.

              By ‘adjusted’ you mean ‘rejected them as irrelevant’

              Also not what I did or said. But do feel free to uncharitably read what you want out of my sentences, nothing I say seems to stop you from that practice.

              Or here, “No anarchist” to “No EXPERIENCED anarchist”

              No mate, I didn’t reject inexperienced anarchists from anarchism. I merely pointed that it just so happens that you label experienced anarchists as tankies and keep the inexperienced ones who happen to agree with you as examples of the good ones. People can make their own conclusions from that.

              • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                16·
                9 天前

                That’s your uncharitable reading, not what I wrote.

                Sorry that you find a basic reading of what you wrote to be ‘uncharitable’, I understand it’s tied up with your own struggles with basic English.

                Also not what I did or said.

                This you, fascist?

                but the one person (you claim is an anarchist) that hangs out with goat all the time, is gone. Figures.

                No mate, I didn’t reject inexperienced anarchists from anarchism. I merely pointed that it just so happens that you label experienced anarchists as tankies and keep the inexperienced ones who happen to agree with you as examples of the good ones. People can make their own conclusions from that.

                You asked me to name a single anarchist I talked to. I did so. You then rejected them as irrelevant, and then denied that rejecting them as irrelevant was ‘discarding’ them in context. Sorry that you didn’t understand your own request? Like, holy fuck. Do you work at being this bad at basic communication, or does it just come naturally once you start simping for fascists and playing apologist for genocide?

                  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    18·
                    9 天前

                    Why? Because you think that you shouldn’t be called out for supporting Holodomor denial, making not just bad faith arguments, but shitty and easily disproven bad faith arguments (I note that you didn’t actually understand the refutation of your claim about No True Scotsman, instead trying to link it to identity instead of the refinement of a disproven argument’s claim), and simping for fascist coup attempts as some bizarre form of anarchism against revisionist neolibs like Rosa Luxemburg?