With Rogers investing in Starlink.

And I don’t trust Telus and Bell neither.

Is there a list of various internet and mobile providers in different regions in the country?

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      Beanfield owns the fibre in the ground too so they’re one of only truly independent ISPs.

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    Freedom, videotron, teksavvy, etc, but at the end of the day your fiber and cable and adsl internet is likely shaw bell Telus cabling anyways, as they’re required to let smaller providers use the lines.

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    I’ve been using oxio since I moved back to Ontario, they’ve been solid (MVNO using Rogers infrastructure). If you want a referral code, let me know and I’ll DM you.

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      They’re a wholesaler, there’s nothing virtual about their network. Rogers handles connections between end-users and Oxio, nothing further. It’s not Rogers internet.

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        Right… they’re using Rogers infrastructure. I guess MVNO usually refers to cell providers, I was using the term to refer to a wholesaler. In any case, it’s been great for me.

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          Yeah, fair. I just often feel the need to make sure people know the difference, since there are some companies that do literally resell Rogers/Telus/Bell/SaskTel/etc services. They’re mostly either debt relief companies for customers, or global subcontractors for large companies with offices over the world who pay “one company” for internet, but they really just contract it out to the local provider on the others’ behalf.

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        Ya, some people kind of got screwed when they changed their pricing structure recently. It’s probably the most unique option land assuming its model is sustainable long term, it shows how much of your cell bill goes to things like retail spaces and device subsidies. There’s a reasonable argument there for people that can afford a moderate monthly fee rather than paying it all up front, but over a 2 year period it’s cheaper to get Lüm and buy a device outright. Even borrowing at a moderate rate and paying that back over time can be a better deal than standard carrier plans. They tend to have regular new subscriber deals as well as referral codes (xEYOpL) and any relatively modern cell purchased in Canada will be compatible with their network so there’s a good argument for making the switch and setting aside what you would have been paying at another carrier to pay for the next years service and future device replacement.

        Too bad Moe says they’re not allowed to provide service to customers outside Sask.

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          Yeah I’d say the only negative is that I don’t really use a whole lot of data, so I have a bunch left from when they switched pricing (which never expires), but I likely won’t use the minimum amount that comes with the annual plan now (150 GB, but rolls over for one year).

          I’ve definitely changed to not be stingy on data though, like watching videos or streams on data now that I have so much.

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            Ya, people at the lowest end of data usage, like 1 GB or less per month and that had loaded up on the biggest data package for the lowest rates are paying more on renewal, and aren’t really benefiting from all the extra data they hadn’t used yet. Those with more moderate/high usage though(maybe 5+ GB/month) are likely paying less on the new plans. I know for me the plan is significantly cheaper than my original one and I get a lot more data available. They also rolled the 911 fees and unlimited calling/texting into the base rate so that makes it a bit cheaper than just comparing the base membership rate. Maybe some particularly heavy users are still further ahead on other carriers “unlimited” plans, but I know even when I had an unlimited plan paid by my employer, I rarely used more than 10 GB/month which is still less data than Lüm’s current cheapest plan.

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    Internet: I’ve used teksavvy in the past and had a good experience. It’s not independent infrastructure (nothing is) Mobile: freedom (formerly wind) has it’s own network. It was acquired so isn’t quite the scrappy underdog standing up to oligopoly it used to be, but it still seems like the best option. My phone prices have actually gone down over time with them

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      It’s not independent infrastructure (nothing is)

      That’s simply not true. There are independent providers who do own the lines however it’s not that common around Canada. People need to stop applying black or white thinking to everything in general.

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        I haven’t heard of any in the context of internet. Can you share any examples? If there’s a way to get out of the oligopoly I’d love to learn more about it

        Edit: saw beanfield in another comment. I’m happy to stand corrected!

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      I can also recommend Fizz (mobile, they essentially resell Freedom plans). They allow you to “make your own plan” and have fair prices, especially when it comes to roaming.