Thing is most gun owners who hunt know. I saw a man shot at close range when I was in my early twenties. I wasn’t involved, just passenger in a car nearby when it happened. The next day there was nothing about it in the papers. Nothing at all. This guy gets shot and no one cared.
I shot pigs for slaughter at close range right between the eyes when I was ten or eleven years old. All us kids took a turn and in some ways it was a good thing. Its good you know where meat comes from. Only a fool would think that shooting a person isn’t going to result in a large amount of blood. That shot was in a region of the body that has closely grouped large arteries and veins. No surprise there was so much blood. Anyone who is surprised should be thankful they have never seen something like that before.
I saw that video of the man shooting himself in those faces of death videos back in the 90’s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer
I felt bad about it because they said he was a good man. As for Kirk I feel very little. His words have made me care very little for him. Similar to how I felt when that healthcare guy got deleted.
I realize I may be more desensitized to the things like this than most. At least I hope so.
I have never seen a person get shot in person (I’ve seen those videos too) but I have hunted pigs and kangaroos, bullet wounds really aren’t portrayed well in media.
What’s funny to me is that American conservatives will argue that you can’t have guns in Australia. You can. We have guns and… no school shootings. No politicians being assassinated.
Charlie Kirk spouted all kinds of bullshit about my country. I’m very happy he won’t be doing that anymore.
Ehhhh, I wouldn’t be for making death a prerequisite. That’s just ending life for no good reason. Of course senseless death happens all the time, but normalizing and requiring it is a hell of a choice…
Eh… That’s still a bad idea, especially in a society like the US, where guns are very normalized not for killing in many places. Requiring death as an entry fee would just be normalizing their use for killing. It wouldn’t teach any sensible person something they don’t already know except now killing is expected and normalized for gun owners…
Why desensitize a population to something that they should be sensitive about? Just like we should never require working at an abattoir in order to eat meat, we should never require killing to own a gun. It’ll only backfire and make society more accepting of something you don’t want.
Oh trust me, humans can get A LOT worse than now. If you think we’re desensitized to violence, just wait until the real civil war kicks off. The Republicans will make you pine for the days where school shootings were the most deplorable form of daily violence…
Just look at Israel, gleefully murdering children just trying to grab fucking food. You call yourself a cynic, but you’ve no idea the depths of depravity within humanity.
The left is notoriously unarmed while the right is the reason our gun ownership is so high. At a time when the right threatens to take more and more away, this feels like a poor choice. Personally I agree with a very prominent leftist that the working class must be armed, and I feel that as those on the left we need to see the writing on the wall. The united states does not appear to be going a more peaceful direction, and if we want to keep having any rights for the workers at all we need to be ready to frustrate any attempt to disarm or otherwise neutralize us. In a world where the right does not threaten to take guns from trans folks or keep us from using our right to organize, we can talk about gun control again. Sadly we are sliding away from that so fast that I can’t imagine where we will be at the end of this presidency.
Every gun owner should watch the front row video of what guns do to a human body.
Thing is most gun owners who hunt know. I saw a man shot at close range when I was in my early twenties. I wasn’t involved, just passenger in a car nearby when it happened. The next day there was nothing about it in the papers. Nothing at all. This guy gets shot and no one cared.
I shot pigs for slaughter at close range right between the eyes when I was ten or eleven years old. All us kids took a turn and in some ways it was a good thing. Its good you know where meat comes from. Only a fool would think that shooting a person isn’t going to result in a large amount of blood. That shot was in a region of the body that has closely grouped large arteries and veins. No surprise there was so much blood. Anyone who is surprised should be thankful they have never seen something like that before.
I saw that video of the man shooting himself in those faces of death videos back in the 90’s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer I felt bad about it because they said he was a good man. As for Kirk I feel very little. His words have made me care very little for him. Similar to how I felt when that healthcare guy got deleted.
I realize I may be more desensitized to the things like this than most. At least I hope so.
I have never seen a person get shot in person (I’ve seen those videos too) but I have hunted pigs and kangaroos, bullet wounds really aren’t portrayed well in media.
What’s funny to me is that American conservatives will argue that you can’t have guns in Australia. You can. We have guns and… no school shootings. No politicians being assassinated.
Charlie Kirk spouted all kinds of bullshit about my country. I’m very happy he won’t be doing that anymore.
See, guns can solve problems!
It is. It really should be a prerequisite for gun ownership: you have to kill something.
That is a threshold I can’t personally cross, so I don’t think I should own a gun (and I dont).
Ehhhh, I wouldn’t be for making death a prerequisite. That’s just ending life for no good reason. Of course senseless death happens all the time, but normalizing and requiring it is a hell of a choice…
That’s the point. A gun’s purpose is to kill.
And I was thinking of the victim being an animal that needs to be euthanized or something.
Eh… That’s still a bad idea, especially in a society like the US, where guns are very normalized not for killing in many places. Requiring death as an entry fee would just be normalizing their use for killing. It wouldn’t teach any sensible person something they don’t already know except now killing is expected and normalized for gun owners…
Why desensitize a population to something that they should be sensitive about? Just like we should never require working at an abattoir in order to eat meat, we should never require killing to own a gun. It’ll only backfire and make society more accepting of something you don’t want.
Cynically, I think this has already happened. That horse has bolted.
Which is your say, I do agree with your argument, I just think it’s already too late to argue it.
Oh trust me, humans can get A LOT worse than now. If you think we’re desensitized to violence, just wait until the real civil war kicks off. The Republicans will make you pine for the days where school shootings were the most deplorable form of daily violence…
Just look at Israel, gleefully murdering children just trying to grab fucking food. You call yourself a cynic, but you’ve no idea the depths of depravity within humanity.
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If taser training includes being tased, gun training should include being shot.
That’s pretty extreme. Also you can buy a taser without training in the US, so your point doesn’t even stand.
And when that person is Charlie Kirk it’s a beautiful thing.
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Yup, I did. Now what? Am I supposed to feel bad that an asshole died?
No, but there was a shooting of 3 innocent students in Colorado today and now you know what happened to them. And the Uvalde students… Dozens of them…
https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/shooting-evergreen-high-school-denver-metro-area/
And disarming the working class while fascism runs amuck won’t do a damn thing for them.
Meanwhile, your “working class” is armed to the teeth and fascism is still running amok.
The left is notoriously unarmed while the right is the reason our gun ownership is so high. At a time when the right threatens to take more and more away, this feels like a poor choice. Personally I agree with a very prominent leftist that the working class must be armed, and I feel that as those on the left we need to see the writing on the wall. The united states does not appear to be going a more peaceful direction, and if we want to keep having any rights for the workers at all we need to be ready to frustrate any attempt to disarm or otherwise neutralize us. In a world where the right does not threaten to take guns from trans folks or keep us from using our right to organize, we can talk about gun control again. Sadly we are sliding away from that so fast that I can’t imagine where we will be at the end of this presidency.
Heh. The left talks about their guns less. They don’t have guns on their Christmas cards with their kids as part of their identity.
But there are plenty of leftists with guns.
We can still talk about sensible gun control. Key word being sensible.
No it fucking isn’t. Democrats have ensured that.
Ok buddy.
How?
Making people think they don’t need guns.
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You’re right, we already have a goal. There’s no way we can do 2 things at once or one after another… Just impossible. Thank you for your insight.
How do you know the 3 students shot weren’t also assholes?
Not that I disagree per se, but this just sounds like the STD powerpoint from middle school health class: useless by itself.
Tell me you got an STD without telling me you got an STD…
They never said it’d be this itchy!!