• EmpatheticTeddyBear@lemmy.world
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    When you hit and drag an officer with your car, you are going to be shot at. We have a long history of prosecuting “being hit by a car” as “assault with a deadly weapon” in this country. Especially when we have had so many cases of drinks, drug dealers, and so on, attempt to kill police with their cars (and succeeding in many cases) as well as killing innocent bystanders. We call it vehicular homicide.

    Before I get cancelled, I’m all for due process. ICE is doing bad things. The government is doing bad things.

    All that being said, running over a law enforcement officer, even when the officer is in the wrong, will get you shot (and probably killed).

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      You’re missing a core point: ICE habitually and consistently misrepresents their actions to cast themselves in a defensible light.

      I would be 0% surprised if “running over a law enforcement officer” was “grabbed the door handle and didn’t let go because the ICEcube thought he had a brown fish on the line”. ICE gets absolutely zero benefit of the doubt from me, and should get zero benefit of the doubt from anyone who’s not an overt racist.

      And you’re missing another key element here: the agents involved are going to likely get the carte blanche rubber stamp of “qualified immunity” in a situation where they acted as judge, jury, and executioner on what could generously be described as flimsy evidence. It was bad before we had an authoritarian fascist regime in charge, but it’s getting turbocharged now. Refusing to acknowledge that is, at best, an indication of being woefully ignorant and misinformed. ICE is not the good guys.

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        “grabbed the door handle and didn’t let go because the ICEcube thought he had a brown fish on the line”

        That’s poetry right there

    • GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Ok, question: did these “officers” announce themselves? Did they display badges, or any kind of identifying markings? Did they have a warrant?

      Kinda sounds like an attempted kidnapping followed by murder, to me.

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      Assuming that’s what happened. If we have a long history of anything in the US, it’s lying, piece of shit cops.

    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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      There is video of this online. ICE lied and that never happened. Don’t blindly believe fascists, especially when they have a reputation for lying to cover up their actions.

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      The officer who was “hit and dragged by the car” but managed to upholster his weapon and shoot the driver all while being “dragged?”

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      I understand your point, but did you watch the security camera video? If you haven’t, go watch it and ask yourself if the shooting was warranted.

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      People didn’t read the article

      One ICE officer “was hit by the car and dragged a significant distance,” according to a statement from the Department of Homeland Security, which added the officer “sustained multiple injuries and is in stable condition.”

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      Obviously you get downvoted if you do anything but blindly agree. Imagine a world where people would not always blindly follow everything that happens to fit their believes.

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        Sheeple! You must agree, forget the rule of law! All must fall into lockstep with the masses.

        /s critical thinking is hard.