Nearly a third of Americans – 30% – say people may have to resort to violence in order to get the country back on track, according to the latest PBS News/NPR/Marist poll.

It’s a sharp rise from 18 months ago, when 19% of Americans said the same.

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    Well, just WHO THE FUCK is responsible for pushing it off-track, hmmmmm? It didn’t push itself off-track. It was only a year ago when we had an economy that was the envy of the world, and was called Goldilocks, etc. What happened since?

    I wish just for once that the fucking Republicans, most especially all the dumbass voters, took responsibility for all the trouble they have caused.

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    There is no historical precedent for an electoral solution to a descent into fascism.

    There is no historical precedent for an electoral solution to massive wealth inequality.

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    Fundamentally, elections were designed to be a peaceful alternative to the peasantry revolting against the government and beheading their king. As Americans come to grip with the reality that their elections are meaningless, their politicians are bought and their only alternative to fascism is fascism-lite with a pride pin (no trans ppl allowed though) this attitude will continue to fester.

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      The problem with all of this is that the right is literally saying this exact same thing.

      We dismiss it because it’s ludicrous, because they HAVE all the power, their guy IS the deep state that controls everything, but our media world has fashioned a narrative for our stupidest segment that they’re the oppressed underdogs.

      Meaning, no matter what happens, even if we get our best outcome and drag this administration onto the White House lawn, we still have to live next to millions and millions of people who think we’ve been planning to do that to them for decades now.

      There is no good solution that doesn’t involve some kind of new leadership that needs to be built from the ground up and will likely take generations to nurture and develop.

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      Not always. The Portuguese carnation revolution happened without violence. Spain democratised right after Franco’s death.

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      Facebook clowns laughed at me when I said that you can vote in fascism, but you have to shoot your way out.

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    You can’t argue nazis out of your government. Churchill didn’t convince Hitler to back out of Poland over a friendly cuppa.

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    No, there’s a growing number of brainwashed idiots that have been groomed to believe in powerful white men.

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    30%, 50%, 70% means nothing if no one takes action.

    The French, the orcas, allegedly Luigi. We have to follow their example. Anything less is just glazing at how “comfy” sitting on the frying pan feels.

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    Guns do not protect you from Fox News.

    I disagree with Lemmy (and the growing public sentiment), but for the opposite extreme reason: we are beyond violence changing things. This is a propaganda/reality war, and truth doesn’t really matter.

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    Peaceful general strikes would be a better first option imho

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    I only glanced the article but a question we need to answer first is what exactly is violence?

    It seems straightforward but in multiple countries now i have read politicians making claims about violent mobs while in effect it was destruction of property.

    Aggression isn’t violence so i am curious how many people say one thing while meaning the other.

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      not only that people not close to areas of violence are still too content, because they have thier creature comforts with them.

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    Trump certainly does, or at least it’s what he claims.

    Just because it will probably be, doesn’t mean you have to initiate it first. Not only is there a lot of preparation that needs to go towards a revolution that isn’t just arming and shooting, but it’s also better if the other side is the one to initiate it first. First is getting rid of the delusion that the federal government hasn’t been corrupted beyond repair, getting rid of the delusion that you can work inside a system that’s now exponentially worse than it was 4 years ago and somehow fix it. Then you can look at your own history and where power can actually be consolidated, and begin preparing knowing you are working against compromised social networks with the next generation of Cambridge Analyticas so you can’t rely on ignoring the elephant in the room.

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        you mean covert fascism. many of the elements were there, it’s just out in the open now.

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        That’s your interpretation, but this could also be an indicator of fascists becoming more violent. Which is terrifying.

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            I never said anything remotely similar to that, I think you’re misunderstanding me. I’m just saying that the way a conservative or a fascist views “getting the country back on track” is very different from the way liberals and leftists do. I’m pointing out that the question targeted Americans as a whole, not a specific political leaning. Especially when conservatives have had their slogan he “make America great again” the idea that they want to “get the country back on track” but with a very different definition of back on track shouldn’t be that surprising.