Wait… wouldn’t the plane just, like, collapse in on itself? Or at least just fly through Superman and have a Superman sized hole in it? I mean, he just stands there like an immovable object.
Even if he were to slow it down - it’s not designed to withstand being held by 10cm2 anywhere.
Iirc in the comics, superman has a not-often-discussed power to reinforce whatever he touches. Its just a massive handwave to get around obvious problems, but it lets him do cool stuff like rip buildings out of the ground, so i still suspend my disbelief
Heat rays can’t melt high tensile steel.
Hey, how about let’s not promote right wing conspiracy theories?
Yeah no one will ever interpret this as a joke.
i get all my facts from comic strips posted on niche internet communities
Un-ironically, believing in conspiracy theories is a good first step towards the alt-right. I hate to say it because it sounds so alarmist and slippery-slope-ist but I believe it to be true. If you look at QAnon and a big chunk of Trump supporters, they have the same conspiracy theory mindset. A lot of conspiracy theories have anti-Semitism at the core, and believing one conspiracy theory (especially about a subject as emotionally charged and that has caused so much harm historically) is a good way to start believing more and more conspiracy theories.
We have seen in the recent past how the alt-right uses comics and “harmless” memes to recruit and it’s a big factor as to how Trump won the first presidency.
I think that there is a fine line between just stupidly believing conspiracy theories and actually asking yourself “this seems plausible, but how can I disprove it?”
I once was against fluoride due to an article. 2 months later when I was shopping for a new toothpaste I was like “wait, what does fluoride ACTUALLY do?” And I did some research. While yes, it is toxic, you have to eat so much of this stuff it’s basically impossible, while the amounts you usually take are just enough to keep your gums healthy. You might develop white spots on your teeth if you eat literal tubes of toothpaste, but who does that.
believing one conspiracy theory is a good way to start believing more and more conspiracy theories
When you find out that MKUltra, Operation Northwoods, Operation Paperclip, Operation Snow White , Iran contra, The Black Panther Coloring Book, Tuskegee experiment etc. are all actually true, it increases the probability of unproven theories being true.
TIL that laughing at a conspiracy theory means you believe that conspiracy theory.
Hope you’ll excuse my ignorance but how is this a right wing conspiracy theory?
This is the first time I hear of it being a partisan theory, and I remember the day it happened. (I’m not from the USA)
I guess this in itself is not right-wing, as far as I’m aware. It’s more that the mindset of conspiracy-theorists leans more towards the right because, in general, the conspiracy theory rabbit hole often lead to anti-Semitism. If you look at Q-Anon and pizzagate and a lot of far-right culture over the last decade, it’s all conspiracy theories within conspiracy theories. The biggest predictor of whether you will believe any given conspiracy theory is if you already believe another conspiracy theory.
So, in conclusion, you’re correct and it isn’t right wing. It’s the first step down that path and I automatically lumped it in with the right because of that
Ooh right I get you. Thanks for taking the time!
You’re welcome
the mindset of conspiracy-theorists leans more towards the right
Maybe because the right tends to distrust authority. But note that the perpetrators of the conspiracies also tend to be on the right. Nixon (watergate), Reagan (Iran contra), Bush (9/11, yellowcake) etc.
Because idiots tend to vote conservative
How is it a partisan conspiracy theory?
Also the evidence for it is surprisingly solid. See the BBC report of building 7 had collapsed with building 7 standing in the background 30minutes prior to it collapsing. Building 7 also collapses exactly how a planned demolition collapses. Their have been many engineering experts who have said it would not have collapsed from being struct by said plane. I am an engineering student and ran the simulations myself (yes I accounted for weakened steel due to heat) it didn’t collapse.
Their is a photograph of some student doing an art project with hundreds of boxes of blasting caps behind him a couple days prior. All the buildings that collapsed had their internal electrical redone just prior to collapse. Economically their had just been a quote to remove the asbestos that was more than the value of the building and made traditional demolition also absurdly expensive. The insurance payout was the best possible outcome for the owner plus the government picks up the cleanup cost.
Then u have the whole passport thing. The plane its inhabitants the building nothing survived but the hijackers passport managed to make it out down to the street and into the perfect location to get picked up. The odds of that are incredible.
I have seen to much evidence to believe it was an accident I fully believe it was planned and once you have have seen the evidence I have u will also believe.
Copy-and-paste of my answer to a different commenter below about why I said “right wing”. I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I’m happy for myself to believe the official story for 9/11 for now.
I guess this in itself is not right-wing, as far as I’m aware. It’s more that the mindset of conspiracy-theorists leans more towards the right because, in general, the conspiracy theory rabbit hole often lead to anti-Semitism. If you look at Q-Anon and pizzagate and a lot of far-right culture over the last decade, it’s all conspiracy theories within conspiracy theories. The biggest predictor of whether you will believe any given conspiracy theory is if you already believe another conspiracy theory.
Also this comprehensive Building 7 video by EdwardCurrent debunks pretty much all there is to debunk around Building 7, since a lot of the conspiratorial claims are uninformed or straight up bs.
The cutscene was hardcoded it turns out
Here comes WTC7 and the planeless unexplained collapse, too 😂
A 10 storey gash and sprinklers not turning on tends to create those conditions for collapse 🙃
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In a world with Superman, a crazy supervillain doing an inside job to try and make Supes look like he failed would be totally plausible.
I thought the joke was he flew through the building to stop the jet.
In panel 2, there are speed lines showing he flew down from above to catch the plane. He didn’t fly through the building.
The joke is that the building was rigged to collapse anyway, poking fun at that infamous 9/11 conspiracy theory.
Isn’t this a plot point in Batman v. Superman? A bomb at a congressional hearing kills everyone but Superman.
Sounds like a fake movie that doesn’t exist as anything but a hypothetical origin for a future Injustice-type Superman.
Here for the jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams fun!
You are forgetting about the chemtrail chemicals…how hot do they burn???
This one is the most annoying for me. It betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of heat, where a person clearly doesn’t understand that heat can accumulate regardless of where it comes from.
It’s like saying a garden hose cannot fill up a swimming pool because the mouth of the garden hose isn’t as big as the pool.
It’s not even that. It’s a refusal to acknowledge the beams don’t need to melt, they need to soften just past load carrying capacity. Metal increases in ductility with heat until it slowly becomes liquid and skyscrapers have a fuckload of weight on them
The whole conspiracy theory centering around Building 7 completely neglected that the sprinklers simply weren’t able to be turned on, or work with any pressure, and that the building design was enabling the fire to reach stupidly high temperatures.
They evacuated the area when the building started BULGING and a column was shifting out of it’s socket.
Perfectly consistent with loss of strength in the beams.
The most annoying part is that steel beams don’t need to come anywhere close to melting temps to lose structural integrity.
And that the building itself may contain other unknown components that may make a jet fuel fire worse
I am 99.9999% sure it has already been proven that jet fuel alone was able to defeat the structural integrity of the steel used under those loads, but too lazy to check because disproving a disproven again isn’t worth the effort.
No need to add extra details for conspiracy theorists to latch onto.
What about an airliner’s worth of pulverized aluminum?
There was a documentary of a private investigation where they looked into that very topic. It was on very late at night and I fell asleep.
Never seen it since. So pissed about it.
I saw it something like that in Germany on ARTE, but they didn’t produce it themselves. Maybe BBC or so.
It was a documentary looking into several of the conspiracy theories, debunking them.
The airliner’s aluminum is the simpler explanation for molten metal than any “thermite” ideas.
I just searched for it, also with chatpgt help, but can’t point a finger to the three or for documentaries that seem to come up, it’s too long that I’ve seen it.
That one doesn’t bother me quite as much, just because it relies on some finer numbers regarding the structural properties of materials, that people won’t realistically have day-to-day experience with. They have to trust sources, which I do understand people sometimes being reluctant to do for whatever reason.
The concept of heat accumulation in an enclosed space is something everyone has experienced, though. If they have cooked, or gotten into a car in the summer, or any other manner of experiences, they should realize how it works with just a minute or less of thinking. If you contain heat, say, inside of a building, it can build up. Simple as that. Very intuitive, can be fully understood by even a small child. These folks would understand it too, if they just thought about it for a second instead of just believing randos on the internet who are appealing to their feelings.
Im sure most people have experience with plastic becoming bendy before it melts. It’s not hard to translate that to metal.
Yeah, okay I’ll grant that.
Which one is more fantastical, a flying, super-strength, alien humanoid; or a covert, large-scale demolition operation with not a single leak?
I take second.
