• SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works
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    7 days ago

    Protests like this may be demonstrative for foreign governments and solidarity across borders, but it is pretty easy to identify the basic premise: stop using my tax money to fund genocide. Your decisions to appease that apartheid state do not represent us. Etc.

    Protests are domestic, and effective internationally to the degree to which they change policy.

    Your pessimism is born of a lack of civic engagement, I suspect.

    Political hegemony requires a level of coherence that is threatened by mass protests. It is one MAJOR tactic in an overall strategy of moving government in a direction that reflects public will.

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        6 days ago

        Unless you live under a rock you do see some increased support for Palestine even amongst Western governments. A part of that is that it’s very clear that a majority of the common people are in support of Palestine and ending genocide. And no, this is not because Macron or any other politician actually cares, but the more noise you make the more they have to react to it and adapt. If nothing else it shows the world that not every Western citizen is a fan of Apartheid and genocide. The Israeli government doesn’t care about a protest in Australia but if the Australian government starts reacting to it it can work to isolate Israel globally - and unlike Russia, who has other friends, Israel really doesn’t.

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        6 days ago

        Have either of them responded to your online comments about how other people speaking up hasn’t changed anything yet?

        It’s not even been 2 days yet. Other Western countries have started taking first steps in the right direction (Canada, France, a couple others), at least partially due to a shift in public opinion. Maybe give it a week before you declare complete failure?

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          It’s now been several days.

          Israel has announced they are completely taking over Gaza, and continue to kill Palestinians and starve them.

          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/8/how-the-world-is-reacting-to-israels-plan-to-take-over-gaza-city

          Australian government? Strong words and finger waggles.

          Complete and utter pathetic losers people like you are to think waving signs and chanting slogans, and high-fives for feel-good protests do anything useful other than self gratification.

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            Complete and utter pathetic losers people like you are to think waving signs and chanting slogans, and high-fives for feel-good protests do anything useful other than self gratification.

            Meanwhile Germany announced yesterday that it would stop all weapons deliveries to Israel. That is “The safe existence of Israel is part of the Reason Germany exists”-Germany stopping weapons deliveries. That would not have happened without public protests that shifted public opinion.

            Complete and utter pathetic people like you are to think writing online comments about how everything is pointless makes them somehow appear cleverer or wiser than the people at least carrying their dissent to the streets. Go away you nihilistic troll.

            • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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              You are absolutely correct: the current Trump-friendly government would not have acted this way without wide peaceful protest on all channels & iRL.

              But I feel compelled to add: this sort of very mild criticism of Israel - mild enough to let them carry on with their expansionism - is where we were pre Trump/Netanyahu. For decades.

              This is not to support the troll in any way, though. Just a BTW.