• kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    Districts each get a seat. That is the part you are not getting. That is what gerrymandering manipulates. You seem to think that the districts are voting blocks with equal say (1 vote each) in an election of a single seat (thus why you think Blue wins it all) but that is NOT how districting and gerrymandering works in the US (where the word comes from and the only place it is really used, btw). I dont know why you are quoting definitions at me like I dont understand the concept.

    I am not conflating anything. I am deliberately ignoring anything not in the info-graphic that presumably wants to teach us something.

    You specifically brought up that other people are saying that there are better systems, which is exactly what I was responding to and saying you were conflating with the “perfect” term used in the info graphic. So no, this is bull.

    You are the one conflating the abstract presentation on this graphic with some specific real-life situation.

    The abstract presentation in the graphic is a hypothetical that EXPLAINS the real-life situation. Gerrymandering is not a concept in a vacuum. It is a thing that happens and show a simplified version of it here demonstrates how manipulative it is in a digestible way. That is the point. It’s not a mathematical or logical axiom that exists purely in and of itself. It is a pretend situation meant to parallel a real life one and demonstrate a form of political manipulation.

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      14 days ago

      Districts each get a seat. That is the part you are not getting.

      They do not in the example. The example only knows a single winner.

      thus why you think Blue wins it all

      I think that blue wins because the example literally tells us that blue wins.

      that is NOT how districting and gerrymandering works in the US

      And if the infographic said “Gerrymandering as it specifically works in the US only” then that would be relevant.
      But it only explains it a general abstract concept. One that can also occur outside the US. This general concept can also occur without US electoral districts that get some seats. It can occur in any voting situation where the overall population is divided into subgroups.

      the graphic is a hypothetical that EXPLAINS the real-life situation

      Yes, it explains one specific mechanism. Namely changing district shapes to affect the outcome. And the outcome in the example is one color winning.
      I do not care how things are in real life, because my comment has nothing to do with the real life situation, only the one depicted here.