I edited the pronoun.

Thanks for the citation.

Even if Ada made a mistake (not banning drag soon enough), the conclusion is still the same: the decision of dbzer0 to keep that stance (neopronouns aren’t debatable) is theirs, and if you willingly start to attack that stance, you’re going to get actioned upon.

On top of that SoftestSaphic seems to be incorrect

Most of what you are saying is a lie? No one was saying the attack helicopter or litterbox stuff, nor were we defending trolls. What we said is use neopronouns when requested, and report trolls as usual. Refer to people as they ask or ignore them, don’t feed trolls if you think someone is a troll.

People kept engaging with the trolls rather than doing what we asked.

Honestly, people have no idea how to engage with trolling these days (don’t).

https://sopuli.xyz/post/30807847/17981886

I think the modlogs 100% speak for themselves

It all goes down to the drag issue in the end.

Either you think neopronouns are a right (Blahaj, dbzer0) and cannot be removed under any pretext.

Either you think neopronouns can be considered trolling under certain circumstances (LW apparently?)

By the way, you said in a previous comment (https://quokk.au/comment/661634)

Pretending that being trans is equivalent to being a dragon (along with things like encouraging other users to self-harm, because of course this person did, because they are a troll and trying to be cruel to trans people) was the issue.

Drag got banned when drag encouraged people to self harm. The neopronoun thing was a separate matter (see above)

Probably x)

Edit: just because you care about trans people

In addition to simply brigading my communities I have had people harass me in DMs, make death threats towards me, and make fun of me for being a recovering alcoholic. I’ve had these people deny my gender identity, claim I’m a woman, deliberately use the wrong pronouns, and even one person impersonating me while acting like a pig. Really vile stuff.

In short these are not knee jerk reactions, the vast majority of the bans I cast are for good reasons, and while I have made mistakes on occasion, the majority of these bans are correct, and I don’t believe we should be forced to allow known problematic users to hurt our communities just because they haven’t left comments there yet.

Also absolutely. 100%. Them laughing at SoftestSapphic when she’s trying to give some pretty pointed feedback on treatment of trans issues, and then banning her for being “pissy” / “shitty” because of it, really rubbed me the wrong way. I didn’t like that at all. And then yes the hypocrisy of doing that while flopping around like a soccer player moaning about “abuse” because people downvoted some of their precious content, is just extra icing on the bratty-adolescent cake.

And you making that comment using that tone is contributing to the flamewar

Subscribed!

I understand why an instance staff wouldn’t want to have posts questioning instance guidelines every week.

Interestingly enough, in the case of anti AI bans, that topic was discussed on https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49185248?scrollToComments=true , and it seems like both the mod and the person iniating the request found a way

So no, it’s not really “Scratch an anarchist and an authoritarian bleeds”

This is a direct consequence of having that community part of dbzer0.

A community is still subject to the rules of the instance hosting it.

A potential alternative would be to have the alternative community on an instance with a very few rules, but there’s none that I know of at the moment.

Israel, drag, AI, every topic would still come up in the comments of a new community, and the mods of that new community would probably have to take a stance on those, or just see endless slapfights in the comments

For apps there is Voyager, Summit, Blorp and Mlem who support Piefed

For the blocking feature documentation, @rimu@piefed.social is there something? I had a look for 5 minutes but couldn’t find anything

https://piefed.blahaj.zone/ is there for you

https://sopuli.xyz/post/30935971/18041817

As said in the other comment, it’s good that you clarified the “loser comment”

Beyond that, we discussed most of the stuff in the other comment

Just to reiterate,

It’s up to you. I think it would be good to have another !yptb community that’s not satire or a one person creation.

You could potentially enforce more respectful discussions there.

I wasn’t implying people who care about politics on whatever side are losers. I was saying that people are accusing PugJesus of being a loser because he cares and argues about politics, and lemmy.ml is the glassiest of glass houses as far as that accusation.

Ok, that makes more sense.

I did think about “migrating” to some other place for the topics I care about that have communities like YPTB on dbzer0, but just like in the 196 case, it doesn’t really work entirely that way, and anyway if they continue to let me say what I want to say in YPTB, I probably won’t really care beyond just voicing my opinion on it all.

It’s up to you. I think it would be good to have another !yptb community that’s not satire or a one person creation.

You could potentially enforce more respectful discussions there.

Yes

@Demigodrick@lemmy.zip is a well estimated admin

https://lemmy.zip/post/40323214?scrollToComments=true

You’re using an instance without email registration that should have shut down 2 weeks ago

https://lemmy.one/post/27858506

They are only the 4th

https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

I don’t want to have this whole ridiculous debate again. I feel stupid even touching on it to this extent, I just wanted to give you that relevant context. You’re literally celebrating the dbzer0 admins for banning a trans person for trying to voice her objection to the performative and stupid way that trans issues are handled in some segments of Lemmy. In my world, she should be allowed to say that. In yours and dbzer0’s, apparently she should not, because db0 is the arbiter of whether trans issues are being handled correctly, and she is not, and she needs to obey their instructions for what she can and can’t speak up on.

The majority of the users of Blahaj are trans too.

• Drag was trolling, there was no need to fall for that bait: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39039162/17029381
• This comment summarizes the generally admitted stance on Blahaj on the whole issue: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/15524768
• When the !196 attempted migration happened, the majority of the users wanted to stay on Blahaj. Was it because Ada was keeping them hostage, when the !196 mods were offering an alternative on LW? No, it was because they see the value in Blahaj’s moderation policies: https://feddit.org/post/7025680/4263481

I remember his username and him being a twat

PJ himself admitted that being correct

I mean tbf both of those are at least true

https://lemmy.world/comment/18435763

On top of that, the community is called !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com, having this kind of statements regarding the reported power tripping mod is as old as the community.

When you look at the recent thread about JordanLund (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48096338), you see things like

It’s been a couple of weeks since @jordanlund@lemmy.world was in here defending genocide. I almost missed the ugly fucking zio. Automatic PTB for anything he touches with his scummy little fingers.

You commented below it without seeing any issue.

I’ll happily advocate for the Palestinians’ rights to kill as many of the IDF as they can manage. It won’t solve their problems, but they’ve got every right to do it, and nothing else that I can see will solve any of their problems other than better leadership in the US.

I think you’ve probably understood me pretty well, what you decide about me is up to you just like it is for everyone else.

Don’t go to lemmy.world, it’s a silly place, for this among some other reasons.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48096338/19830549

What has changed since then?

Honestly I thought you were smart and well-meaning, just kind of focused on growth of the community and creating positive things. The more I am looking into how dbzer0 does things, the more I think lumping them in with the tankie instances with their admin behavior fits pretty well, and I have no idea why you’re bending over backwards so far to defend them.

As I mentioned in a previous comment you never replied to (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49728632/20305246)

I’m am going to be honest with you, I didn’t expect you to make this kind of comments

Cool! Now accuse him of caring way too much about politics, and getting in heated debates about it like a LOSER, speaking as you are from your lemmy.ml address. That’ll make perfect sense too.

Also, not sure why it’s not okay for dbzer0 to have a “our users” stance while you broadly categorize all .ml users as “losers”

You are scrutinizing all dbzer0 mod actions to put them in the worst way possible, while nothing is new:

• YPTB has always had some aggressive comments towards the reported power tripper
• The dbzer0 stance on the drag matter is known, nothing new here
• the pro / anti AI seems to be dbzer0 mods banning people who downvote their content on their communities, seems quite common across the platform

If !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com seems too oriented for you, feel free to reanimate !modabuse@lemmy.sdf.org or create another community. That would be interesting, to be honest.

Edit: Also, there’s a difference between expressing low opinions about someone and directly insulting them.

Noted

At this point it’s a you vs them question, and interpretation of what happened.

Unless you get another external perspective on it (e.g. LW mods), it’s probably going to stay like this.

That gives them justification to start shit about something completely off topic? Even if they had any good point, that is not the time or place.

You and dbzer0 staff had a disagreement about AI in the past: https://lemmy.world/post/29116020/16853508

You report a user doing vote manipulation.

The reported user links to a comment you made in the Fuck_AI community:

• https://lemmy.world/post/31072292/17587686
• https://lemmy.world/post/32430859/18054961

Seems on topic to bring that issue up.

Again, if you think it violates the rules of the LW support community, you should report it to the mods so that they take action.

I was talking about

https://lemmy.world/post/33338615/18389370

If we are talking about https://lemmy.world/post/32430859/18040819 , you reported a dbzer0 user, so it’s expected that the reported user’s admin would jump in.