One year is more like the protection is so good that you probably won’t even get sick.

I think it also depends a lot on the vaccine though. Something like meningitis or the MMR seem to be much much longer lasting, when you’ve had your shots you don’t need them again.

Probably someone who knows more about vaccines can explain it better.

You do you, but I’m happy to enjoy an ice cream once in a while.

So the UK has exactly the kind of labelling you’re talking about and they’re one of the fattest countries in Europe. Guess what, they also eat one of the highest proportions of UPF.

What food are you actually talking about that gets falsely flagged as unhealthy?

Because it’s too complicated. It would be too long of a list for people to remember and its too difficult to prove the harm of individual ingredients and they’re probably almost all fine in moderation.

Look at where we are now with saturated fats: Every major health organisation in the world says they’re linked to cardiovascular disease and should be limited in diets, and meanwhile hordes of people who’ve read a pop science book or watched a YouTube video think they know better and can eat all the fat they want.

We’ve tried going against fat, we’ve tried putting the sugar, fat and calories and packaging, people know about calories in, calories out, and yet obesity never stops growing.

UPF is about the manufacturing process. The idea is that it isn’t going to include the things that you make in your kitchen from whole and processed ingredients, but it does include the cheap easy to overeat stuff cooked up by food manufacturers.

Also I’m not aware of anyone who says you should eat no UPF whatsoever. It just shouldn’t be a huge part of your diet.

I think you’re kind of missing the point of the classification. It’s not supposed to be a perfect identifier of unhealthy foods, its supposed be more useful than stuff like “red meat consumption linked to colon cancer” (when actually the steak is broadly okay, but the stuff that’s been ripped apart and reformed together with a bunch of additives and eaten multiple times per week is not).

The UPF classification is an attempt to group together all the different kinds of foods that are formulated by food scientists using ingredients you wouldn’t have at home, often waste or byproducts chosen for their low cost, that’s been iterated over to produce the most shelf stable product which their testing shows people eat the most of while keeping profit margins high. It is almost always very easy to eat quickly and therefore overeat, while being devoid of fibre and high in sugar/salt/fat.

On the topic of fruit juice, even when the ingredients list sounds fairly innocuous, fruit juice extracts are a great way to cram sugar into a product, so you can e.g. consume an entire apples worth of sugar in one bite with none of the fibre. Thats why they count as UPF.

There’s a distinction between processed and ultra processed. Normal bread made from flour, water, yeast and salt is processed, not ultra processed. If its got emulsifiers, preservatives, and sugar added then its UPF.

Olives, cheese, traditionally made sausages are processed. That slab of competely uniform reconstituted meat is UPF. The cheese from a can is UPF.

Processed foods are broadly fine. We’ve been eating them since the dawn of civilisation.

I completely agree, but in a lot of places you need infrastructure changes to reduce car dependency, and swapping out ICE cars for electric is something positive that an individual can do on their own.

Some of them will. Andrew Tate has over 10m twitter followers including a lot of teenagers and young men. While many of them will be inspired to commit physical and sexual violence against women, I think most of them actually won’t and can and will grow out of it as they get older and have some experience with women.

Most Trump voters aren’t rabid maga fanatics, they’re just the visible minority. I think the same is true for Tate followers.

Yes. There you’re addressing friendship and in the rest of the comment you imply that its easy to find a partner by meeting a very low bar.

They are so much less polluting though. We know that car emissions are causing excess deaths, asthma, dementia, not to mention the obvious contributions to climate change.

Tyre and brake particles are still an issue, but its far less than if the fuel you’re burning is directly dumping toxic particles into the air.

I’ve looked and I don’t really see that you have. You seem pretty dismissive of the fact that this group actually exists and quick to jump to attacking maga cultists and gross men who disrespect women - who nobody here is sticking up for.

Sorry to hear that but congrats on your dick at least bro.

Nobody here is arguing that Trump supporters or stinky men who only care about women for sex deserve to have partners.

It’s just that you and the OP don’t acknowledge that finding a partner is hard for a lot of men who aren’t jerks and have a reasonable amount going for them and the implication is that it’s own fault and they must be a dick.

If you flip the genders and make a statement like: “if a woman can’t find a decent man it must be their own fault. It’s easy, just go and take up some male dominated hobbies and take a shower.” Its an asshole thing to say, no?

So how about we try not to be assholes and have some empathy.

Pro choice, sympathetic to womens issues, good cook, able to converse about many topics, platonic female friends, hobbies, good hygiene, >6ft tall, healthy weight, reasonably attractive, good degree and then job.

That is/was me and I’m happily married, but it took 7 years of putting a lot of effort into dating before I met her, and I was not picky about who I dated.

The idea that men can easily find a partner by meeting a few basic requirements is divisive tribalist nonsense.

Not to mention in a car you’re putting pedestrians, drivers and other road users in danger. On a bike you’re pretty much just putting yourself in danger.

Yes I know its possible for a cyclist to injure/kill a pedestrian, but its very very rare compared to cars killing people.

So do something about it. If you just sit there and post “I don’t want this” on the Internet they’re just going to keep doing it.

Starmer just purges members that make too much trouble like Corbyn, and his majority is so big that he can’t really be opposed.

There already is a major party that’s actually left wing, the Greens. Its not clear where this new party actually differs from the greens in terms of policy.