Liberals in the US are supporting genocide, they are not to the left of conservatives, who are also supporting genocide.

For the rest of your generic 2012 era “let’s all support the moderate Republican with a d next to his name because he’s black” rhetoric, that’d be nice, we tried that, then they supported genocide and used US troops to aide in genocide.

I don’t know what you think my ideology is, but genocide isn’t it. So no, liberals are not close to my ideology.

Reread and try again, I did address your point.

But let’s pretend Israel doesn’t exist and we’re talking about make believe liberals.

Those individuals would be smarter than those further to the right of them, and they would care generally about being monsters, at least while we’re playing make believe. Those further to the right have no such issue, they accept that they’re monsters.

Therefore enacting change would require liberals to move left, regardless of what the lost causes conservatives or the far right does.

Or to put it in an even more oversimplified way, liberals and other right wing but not Nazi people get yelled at, Nazis get punched.

Liberals aren’t the middle, they’re the far right. The second you defend genocide, you no longer get to pretend you’re anything but a fascist. Plenty of Nazis felt bad about “the fact” Jews had to be systemically murdered. They weren’t not Nazis for thinking that way.