• x0x7@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    It’s really a more general problem with Western culture around engineering. Restriction maximizing engineering makes the world shitty. Engineers think they have an obligation to make any product do the absolute minimum that stat still meet spec. That is not to reduce cost or design difficulty by coming in just at spec, but to actively try to make things as shitty as possible using significant effort to do so just so the thing can do only the minimum thing that can be said to do the thing at all. It actually takes effort to make this happen.

    The end result really sucks. Because this is so costly and everything is layered maximal minimalism this means that if you want to scale anything up at all the cost to do so is insane if western engineers are involved. This is a significant reason why China gets the manufacturing work and western engineers don’t. They are yes men. Yes we can build that. And they have a network of yes men behind them that can help them execute on anything. And because they don’t waste time engineering restriction every product and sub-product is adaptable.

    But the western engineer only knows one mode of thinking. “We need to isolate the regimes that this product may operate in.” Sometimes that’s true but it shouldn’t be everything we think about.

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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      14 days ago

      As a Western engineer, it’s not engineering, it’s management culture you have a problem with. Most engineers I meet want to make their product the best they can, but management actively cracks down on and sabotages these efforts for various reasons, none of them having to do with engineers.

      They think that making something worse always takes less time and effort, so if you made something that is more than the bare minimum, they think you’ve wasted their budget.

      Also, they don’t care about making a good product, they care about their careers, so if someone else had a good idea, they are incentivised to sabotage it because it either draws time and attention away from the things that would get them promoted. If you think that your new thing could make their work easier as well, and your interests are aligned, see my previous point.

      Finally, with customer-facing products, there is also the fact that your better solution might make some bullshit monetisation strategy obsolete.

      We’re alienated as fuck from our work, don’t point at us mate.