Debanking on wikipedia

So with the new regime executive order declaring it essentially illegal to be unhoused, people at risk might be thinking, “how do they classify me as homeless if I am surfing between friends or family or shelters?”

One of the big answers to this is the practice of debanking. If your financial institutions catch wind that you don’t have a stable address, they will try to close your accounts and send your balance as a cashier’s check to your last legal address. At-risk people understand the many, many scenarios where even just this process could be devastating.

Some unexpected ways you can get de-banked:

  • your apartment doesn’t have a legal address

  • you lose home owner’s insurance or your coverage changes and your bank decides it doesn’t like that

  • your building’s owner defaults

  • fire

  • flood

You may be at risk and just now realizing it. If you have an MH diagnosis and you don’t have two back-up legal addresses, you are on this Ex O.

Anyway, do not get debanked. Have legal address back-up plans EVEN IF YOU TRY TO FLEE THE COUNTRY because you do not want the regime classifying you as someone they want to put in the camps.

Sorry for another US-centric post.

    • cyborganism@piefed.ca
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      Hahaha right? They sold the lie so well. But it’s so easy to do when you control the majority of the world’s media, whether it’s news, radio, television, cinema, or online streaming.

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          So uh. Are you trying to infer that it is a tiny set of people/corporations, or that there are other Nations in on it?

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              This.

              Corporations run shit. “Nations” generally tell you/us to do what they’ve been told to tell you/us to do by those that pay them. FWIW, flag’s are team spirit swag; hollow brand loyalty to a non-entity that DGAF about you and never will.

              We’re so fucked if this still needs saying, in this day & age. Fuuuck.

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      To be honest, this shift in our politics has been brutally quick and more federally far reaching than anything that happened while I was growing up. People used to be able to just exist. Camp in parks, sleep on benches, etc. This authoritarianism is… Somewhat new.

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    For all other Europeans out there, avoiding this situation is another thing the EU did for us.

    For the Americans, write to your representatives demanding the same rights.

    Excluding people from having a bank account in 2025 is basically condemning them to ostracism even without sending them to concentration camps.

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    I came into this thread thinking that the term de-banking was something like de-google and I was eager to find some opensource service tô get rid of the dependency of banks all together.

    Boy was I wrong. /s

    Good advice though!

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      I was eager to find some opensource service tô get rid of the dependency of banks all together.

      Credit unions

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    Do you have a source for ANY of this drivel?

    I was homeless for years, and have worked with homeless addicts for the last 10 years. Never in my life have I heard of these things happening for the reasons you give. Hell even to this day I don’t update a bank with my new address.

    Could you provide a reliable source for more information about this actually happening to real people en masse? I have no doubt it’s happened to someone somewhere, but would be surprised if this was a real problem and I wasn’t aware.

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      I have to say I agree here, hell I’ve never updated one of my open bank accounts. It still has me under my mother’s old house from when I turned 18, and I’ve moved at least 10 times since then. I’ve also helped/worked with/am friends with plenty of unhoused or at risk folks and never heard of being 'debanked. Now if OP wants to talk about getting accounts or your ID in the first place while being unhoused then that’s a different story. Plenty of times I’ve seen it be next to impossible to get these things w/o an address. Not so much maintaining it w/o an address.

      Although im sure anything is possible, so I wont discount it completely.

      The term has gained traction after being discussed on a November 2024 The Joe Rogan Experience podcast with investor Marc Andreessen, in particular with respect to cryptocurrency assets.

      Yeah im not buying it, but the next line says instances of Muslim people having accounts closed have been covered by media. Although that’s shaky at best. What media? Who specifically? Im not convinced that this even happens often enough for people to clutch their pearls

      Edits: that claim to “Muslim money” is cited and links to an ebook about Canadian Islamophobia, but its using this book as a source to say Muslim accounts get closed in the USA and its covered by “media”

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          1. use an address you can access for at least a week
          2. get your initial documents
          3. go paperless and have the mail all RTS

          Job done, nobody will bother you and you can use electronic statements as proof for accounts. Just don’t commit fraud with them and nobody cares.

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          I mean she might have if she still lived there smartypants. She lives in a trailer now. Bold of you to assume any of my family still lives there lmao

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        The Wikipedia in on the term debanking and what it means. Not some wild anti-Trump conspiracy to come after you.

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    this entire thread is filled with drumpf apologists and sanewashers

    Congrats lemmy, you lost the war with fascism through inattention and allowed yourself to be co-opted

    EVEN THOUGH you had clear evidence from 4chan and reddit how fascism grows on online forums through deliberate discussion manipulation

    I have reported over 30 incidents of social media sliding from inauthentic accounts and all it did was get be banned for 2 days for being ‘rude’.

    You get what you fucking deserve and I’m going to enjoy watching your collapse

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      it is pretty wild dude but I think some of the people resorting to sane washing are burned out by all the cable news / huff post / raw story kayfabe

      they see somebody pointing at a threat and instead of add that to their mental load, they’d rather shuffle it aside as panic bait or whatever

      i kinda get it

      my hope is that if their banks actually threaten them with this they remember “oh yeah, i’ve heard of this, it has something to do with my address getting challenged” and then maybe they can figure it out in time? then they don’t have to deal with getting labelled like this and losing services.

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        The two friends that I had that were de-banked didn’t get any notice, they just got a check mailed to their previous address and only one of them managed to recover it