• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Oh, then by all means. Maybe show up to a Democratic primary once in a while and you’ll get your chance.

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        22 days ago

        That’s a form of cognitive distortion, not a political strategy. Mamdani won against 10 other candidates because we showed up. We have literal evidence that’s all it takes. Quit with the victim mentally and take your country back.

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            22 days ago

            Typical all or nothing response. Let’s forget the 535 members of Congress have primaries every 2-4 years so we can complain that ‘it was either Fetterman or Dr. Oz’ when Fetterman beat three primary contenders, two of whom were progressive, in a primary that saw <9% turnout.

            If you think abstaining is the solution, why has it only made things worse for the last 40 years?

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      22 days ago

      Friend, what a pointless waste of time with the uniparty, they will do whatever is needed to manipulate away any real change

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        22 days ago

        You know what causes more harm than Democrats? People not voting for them because they’re not far enough to the left, and therefore moving the entire country to the right.

        What teaches the Dems to move to the right is that those on the right actually get votes.

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          22 days ago

          Correct. What caused the Democrats to move right over the last 40 years were the retirees who continuously voted for centrist conservatives in primaries. They’re the only ones who always show up, hence the <15% congressional primary attendance.

          Mamdani got the NYC primary up to a record 30%. That’s all it takes for us the move the Overton Window back to the left.

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            22 days ago

            Mamdani got the NYC primary up to a record 30%. and they are already moving to put the kibosh on him! PROGRESS!

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              22 days ago

              Because the corporate Dems are scared when people actually show up to vote in the primary. That’s why we need to keep doing it to replace the Democratic leadership.

              Why are you trying so hard to keep people from doing that? Are you an idiot, or are you a troll and actually want things to stay as they are?

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                22 days ago

                What kind of fucked up, Stockholm syndrome shit is this? Keep giving more money and more power to the organization that resents your participation in the process?

                Jfc, and gringos think they can tell anyone else what a democracy is.

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          22 days ago

          Sure friend, just keep voting for the ratchet! Im sure the genocidal zionoists like AOC will have a change of heart any day now!

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        22 days ago

        If you’re honestly expecting a three-party system to emerge from FPTP, you need to work on your mathematics.

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            22 days ago

            I don’t care if you play. I’m merely saying how continuing to do nothing is pointless. Good luck complaining the government out of power.

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              22 days ago

              All meaningful positive change in the US happened outside of the theatre piece of electoral politics. These include:

              • Socialist armies like vietnam’s bringing the US to heel ended the US draft.
              • Large numbers of people protesting internally, brought the end of the vietnam war, rights for workers like the 8 hour day, women’s rights, etc. The US has one of the bloodiest labor histories of any country, and unfortunately the US state did defeat it, but all of the gains for US workers come from this historical period of anti-capitalist organization.

              US electoralism is a distracting theatre piece, where both sides act as capitalist puppets. All positive change comes in spite of that system, when ppl start organizing outside of it.

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                22 days ago

                Why must it be one or the other? Do you really believe the best strategy is to focus all of your efforts in one direction?