• redrevjose@lemmings.world
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    19 days ago

    Ahhhh liberals, spreading the same sinophobia and anti-DPRK sentiment as the righties worded a bit different and with a pride flag 😄 🫠

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      18 days ago

      Even among leftists, the AES countries are a sore subject. Most leftcoms, libcoms, trots, hoxhaists, and maoists are critical of places like the DPRK (if they don’t just outright reject them in their entirety.)

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      19 days ago

      Libs: Waaa how could you support NK! It’s run by a dictator who keeps his people in ruin and absolutely kills millions!!! MSNBC told me so!

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          19 days ago

          What’s wrong with that? Without authority in the current world context, you simply get eaten alive. The DPRK has to spend a lot of resources into it’s military, much much more than then would like, because otherwise they would get fucking bombed back to the middle ages by the americans, again.

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          19 days ago

          Yeppers, based on the ever-present empire totally-the-truth about the “authoritarianism” of the DPRK or CCP or any communistic leaning government they don’t like 😁

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      19 days ago

      Who said anything about physically fighting? Liberals roll over to the right in all manner, in the courts, legislatively, when they are in power…

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        19 days ago

        Oh, then by all means. Maybe show up to a Democratic primary once in a while and you’ll get your chance.

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            19 days ago

            That’s a form of cognitive distortion, not a political strategy. Mamdani won against 10 other candidates because we showed up. We have literal evidence that’s all it takes. Quit with the victim mentally and take your country back.

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                18 days ago

                Typical all or nothing response. Let’s forget the 535 members of Congress have primaries every 2-4 years so we can complain that ‘it was either Fetterman or Dr. Oz’ when Fetterman beat three primary contenders, two of whom were progressive, in a primary that saw <9% turnout.

                If you think abstaining is the solution, why has it only made things worse for the last 40 years?

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          19 days ago

          Friend, what a pointless waste of time with the uniparty, they will do whatever is needed to manipulate away any real change

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            19 days ago

            You know what causes more harm than Democrats? People not voting for them because they’re not far enough to the left, and therefore moving the entire country to the right.

            What teaches the Dems to move to the right is that those on the right actually get votes.

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              19 days ago

              Correct. What caused the Democrats to move right over the last 40 years were the retirees who continuously voted for centrist conservatives in primaries. They’re the only ones who always show up, hence the <15% congressional primary attendance.

              Mamdani got the NYC primary up to a record 30%. That’s all it takes for us the move the Overton Window back to the left.

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                19 days ago

                Mamdani got the NYC primary up to a record 30%. and they are already moving to put the kibosh on him! PROGRESS!

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                  19 days ago

                  Because the corporate Dems are scared when people actually show up to vote in the primary. That’s why we need to keep doing it to replace the Democratic leadership.

                  Why are you trying so hard to keep people from doing that? Are you an idiot, or are you a troll and actually want things to stay as they are?

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              19 days ago

              Sure friend, just keep voting for the ratchet! Im sure the genocidal zionoists like AOC will have a change of heart any day now!

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            19 days ago

            If you’re honestly expecting a three-party system to emerge from FPTP, you need to work on your mathematics.

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                19 days ago

                I don’t care if you play. I’m merely saying how continuing to do nothing is pointless. Good luck complaining the government out of power.

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                  19 days ago

                  All meaningful positive change in the US happened outside of the theatre piece of electoral politics. These include:

                  • Socialist armies like vietnam’s bringing the US to heel ended the US draft.
                  • Large numbers of people protesting internally, brought the end of the vietnam war, rights for workers like the 8 hour day, women’s rights, etc. The US has one of the bloodiest labor histories of any country, and unfortunately the US state did defeat it, but all of the gains for US workers come from this historical period of anti-capitalist organization.

                  US electoralism is a distracting theatre piece, where both sides act as capitalist puppets. All positive change comes in spite of that system, when ppl start organizing outside of it.

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    18 days ago

    actually i don’t really want to fight anyone. i think what we need is wisdom and ideas to lay out a plan forward; what we need is a thinktank to actually develop visions for the future. instead what we have is a lot of blaming-the-other-one. that’s barely productive. we need to have positive visions for the future again.