Release the Trump/Epstein files
Harris wasn’t progressive enough for me so I’m okay with this.
Harris is a woman, so I’m okay with this.
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Oh, and because she turned black.I personally liked her better as an Indian.
Yeah, it must be a challenge to you to realize that someone can be bicultural.
I experimented with biculturalism but that was during my college days.
She represented the status quo every single person is so fucking sick of. To the point Donald Trump seemed like the better option to enough people. That’s an abysmal fucking failure of, well, the status quo.
I don’t think most people understood what the “status quo” was until Trump started destroying it.
Yes, “status quo” is billionaires, and monopolies, and low-level corruption, and so-on.
But, “status quo” is also civil liberties, a somewhat functional department of education, not having the national guard chasing down brown people in the street, a bureau of labour statistics that didn’t invent numbers to please the dear leader, cabinet secretaries that weren’t actively working to destroy the thing they were assigned to lead, low-level crony and nepo corruption and not over-the-top obvious bribery, and so-on.
sHe LoV3z tEh GenOsiDezddQ!!! Workers! comrade! Your country is weird!
I CANT believe you DIDNT vote Blue No Matter Who!
-People voting for INDEPENDENT CUOMO over Democrat MAMDANI!
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-People voting for INDEPENDENT CUOMO over Democrat MAMDANI!
Who are you even talking to? Do you know what website you’re on?
I’m not putting my mark next to the name of someone who supports genocide, and Harris made it clear that her position was the same as Biden (“No daylight, kid”). It would be an act of tacit approval, and I would be complicit.
I refused to let a wanna be dictator walk into office without my ballot in the box for anyone with a chance to beat him. I think doing otherwise would be an act of tacit approval, and I would be complicit in all the deportations and rolling back of the rights of all Americans.
So, you settled for letting a madman be elected?
You do have blood on your hands.
So fucking stupid!
The Democratic Party did that, not little old me.
If YOU, didn’t vote for Harris. It IS your fault.
There’s zero defense of that fact.
No you did it.
Donald Trump secured a clear victory in the 2024 presidential election, but some online posts claimed Kamala Harris would have won several key states if not for ballots cast for third-party candidates. This misrepresents available data – preliminary totals show that even with all the non-Trump votes in the seven biggest battlegrounds, the vice president would not have secured an Electoral College win.
Ever heard the term “pyrrhic victory”? Sure, you kept your hands clean, but you didn’t do yourself or the people of Gaza any favors.
I don’t consider it a “victory” of any kind
I choose the lesser of two evils so I can feel smug as wealth inequality spirals out of control and the planet dies around me.
If more people did that my hard working tax paying really nice neighbors wouldn’t have been deported to god-knows-where.
Yes—leave our friends & neighbors alone!
Yeah, it sucks that our population is so uneducated that they will just spitefully vote out the incumbent when the economy gets worse.
But no amount of blaming voters will ever win a race, the Democrats failed to manipulate the dumbass masses, it’s the Democrats fault they lost.
As opposed to? Doing nothing? Voting to accelerate that process even faster? What do you think is going to happen next, now?
No dummy, i think we should discard the Duopoly and support a party that wants to IMPROVE things.
Maybe after the next milquetoast neolib fails to improve things (because they refuse to attack their owners), and the next Republican fascist takes over (because wealth inequalityjust keeps getting worse), and we can finally learn this lesson.
Because it’s been happening every 4-8 years for the last half century.
You can do both… Most people are trying to do both. Harm reduction and improvement are COMPATIBLE STRATEGIES. If you think you have helped the world by refusing to vote for Kamala, then you have fallen for propaganda. Everyone is sick of the neolibs… Doesn’t change that letting Donald Trump get elected was a deathblow to the United States
It’s complicated by the fact that a deathblow to the United States is harm reduction for the rest of the world.
Idk, seems like fascism is spreading all over the world. Like it or not we are all linked. The problems we are having here will find their way to your homeland one way or another
It’s being spread by the United States.
I voted for kamala
What, everyone supporting a new party? Wasn’t there a book called Tipping Point? Why hasn’t it happened yet with that?
I just don’t see how we can change the process, same as you, by everyone suddenly changing their minds before Trump dies setting a precedent for a third term. There aren’t enough Mamdani’s out there.
Just shooting the shit dummy, not shitting on you.
The irony of this comment calling out smugness.
I voted correctly last election, sucks our country’s to fucking dumb to know what’s best for them.
No amount of blaming voters will ever win an election
The “protest voters” did not meaningfully impact the election, no matter who the billionaire owned news tells you to be mad at.
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Yeah honestly I’m waiting :3
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Considering Trump’s votes remained realitivlt steady and their was a huge decline in Democrats numbers I have to disagree on that.
Those were white boomer men/women and hispanic men who stayed home
But yeah fuck the youth, that was the Neoliberal messaging, not that a black woman was unpalatable ro the neolib base
There’s more to civic engagement than voting
How do we civic engagement our way out of wealth inequality?
Going to pretend this is a genuine question in case someone else sees this.
First and most obviously: mutual aid networks, food kitchens, and other volunteer organizations are NGOs that provide literal relief from the immediate effects of economic inequalities.
Additionally, these programs can be used to build relationships with people that agree broadly on these issues and develop the education needed to get people on board with more radical change.
Second, engagement with local politics can be used to push political party platforms that are more beneficial to everyone. Yes, there is a ton of inertia to overcome, and national parties are heavily captured by capital interests, but a lot of concessions can, and have been, won at local and state levels. Again, even where this effort fails directly, it helps build the kind of connections needed to create the consent needed for more radical change.
Finally, and most Libby, yes, also vote. Every lever we can keep out of the hands of opposition is one that is harder to use against us later.
Voting is the least effective of these, but (until proven otherwise) there is still some power available to us through this method.
Keeps’ blaming the base for the candidate staying pro-genocide. Precisely what mechanism should be be used to “move” 6 million voters on their anti-genocide position?
Pretty bad look. Makes you look like a genocide apologist. You should just stop.
I would take Harris, who was the only other choice in our two party system, any day over Trump.
These idiot’s solution to the trolley problem is to complain about the lever and how there should be better level so it’s not their fault for not pulling the lever that was available.
She wasn’t the only other choice. I had 4 choices, and a write in option. If you wanted the Democrats to continue to move to the right, you can just say that instead of making up excuses.
How many votes did those other three get?
Did they miss second place by a vote or two?
How many did Harris lose by? Was it enough that 3rd party votes mattered?
I didn’t vote against Genocide and The War Machine because I thought we would win. I voted against them because they are evil.
I’m just wondering if they had a chance.
If they lost by a couple percentage points it’s a lot different then if they only got a couple tenths of a point but I can tell by your dodging of the question what the answer is.
Of course they never had a chance to win. Americans care more about their team winning, then they care about stopping things like Genocide or War. Always have, and probably always will.
I didn’t vote against Genocide and The War Machine
Keep desperately trying to convince yourself of that.
Why would I have to convince myself of something that I clearly did?
The only realistic other choice.
You keep trying to blame the voters. Harris was the problem. Blaming the voters (which you did in real time in 2024) handed the election to Trump. You can’t, nor should you “move” 6 million people onto the wrong side of history by asking them to support a genocide. You might be able to move a candidate. Blaming voters is a total and complete distraction.
You (and those who adopt the same strategy as you) are the reason we ended up with Trump. And this toxic, destructive mindset of yours needs to be buried so we can actually have a chance of stopping Trump in the future.
Voting red or not voting is still the reason Trump got into office. He supports the genocide, but ok, HaRriS BaD. Note I don’t like Democrats either, but I don’t agree with throwing votes away because of one issue that was worse on the other side. The people who didn’t vote or voted the other way supported genocide by letting Trump win.
But this is entirely the point. Blaming the voters gives you the opportunity to wash your hands and absolve blame, but it doesn’t get us any closer to winning the election in 2024. Not now, and not then, in 2024, when it was happening in real time.
There was one way to beat Trump in 2024: Get more votes than him. Its obvious now that the argument “less bad” wasn’t good enough to convince 6 million people to show up. We ran the experiment. We got the data. We know the outcomes.
If you, or SatansMaggotyCumFart, or anyone else wants to keep defending this approach, the onus is on you to provide a mechanism for how this argument gets Harris 6 million more votes.
Satan’ thinks they have an axe to grind because they were couching their rhetoric with the expectation of failure from the onset. The argument that “less bad” should be good enough is bad politics and doesn’t work because it doesn’t convince any new voter who didn’t already accept that argument to show up. The more that argument shows up, the more people think that this failed approach to electoralism has legs, the further we get from actually being able to beat the Trumps of the world.
Harris offered voters nothing, and we were quite literally begging her to throw a fucking crumb of rhetoric saying she would stop arms to Israel, because it was obvious to anyone with eyes that she was going to lose the election if she didn’t move on this issue in August. And Satans approach to that point was to push those who were critical of kamala FURTHER out of the party; basically the same treatment the DNC gave to Palestinians at the convention.
Don’t be like Satan. We need to actually win, and Satan’s approach will lose us another election. Criticize candidates, intensely. FORCE them into positions that can actually get them elected. Demand that candidates move to where their voters are, because there is quite literally no mechanism to move 6 million voters into supporting genocide, and if you promote that, you are a bad person.
so we can actually have a chance of stopping Trump in the future.
Already had a chance, threw it away
Good. Maybe go away from ever commenting again too.
{What do you think the point of reposting hard evidence of your toxicity is?}
It really must be difficult to do the mental gymnastics required to absolve yourself from the key role that you played in the rise of American fascism… I mean, I get why. It must feel awful to know the truth.
So blame everyone but yourself.
So what exactly is it you think you are accusing me of? Not voting sufficiently hard enough for Kamala? That I argued too strongly that Kamala wasn’t winning based on the data I had available and what analysis and inference I could develop?
Or that I argued that she needed to do something different in her campaign to win based on where the electorate was at?
Do you genuinely believe that because people pointed out that Kamala was running a disastrous campaign, that this was why she lost?
I always find it telling when people blame the voters that couldn’t stomach voting for genocide, rather than blaming their candidates for chosing genocide.
Its extremely telling; but its also like, brainlet level stupid:
Their argument is that 6 million voters needed to vote differently, on their own. Like think the process through. How the fuck do you make that happen? What is the mechanism that changes 6 million voters minds?
There is no mechanism that changes the mind of 6 million people. That’s not how elections work. Period. And keeping insisting that the voters “just needed to vote differently”, ok, but how? How does SatansMaggotyCumFart change 6 million minds on the matter by just repeating “Trump worse”?
You can change the mind of one person (the candidate, Harris). We could have moved Harris if she knew she didn’t have enough of the bases support on this issue. But Blue MAGA/ BNMW through the entire country to the wolves so they could wash their hands of responsibility.
I agree with you mostly, except for this part:
We could have moved Harris if she knew she didn’t have enough of the bases support on this issue.
I’m pretty sure the polling was out already, and she knew that she didn’t have support. But she cared more about money and building out the War Machine, than she cared about winning the election.
than she cared about winning the election.
Like, I want to believe she wanted to win, but because of the BNMW/ Blue MAGA, and the censorship across media that resulted of this (I mean we saw it here, directly), she didn’t think she needed to earn the bases support.
I love having an Alzheimer’s patient as president. We have a minimum age for president and there should be a maximum age too.
Age is a bad criterium. Some people become degenerates at 50. Others are degenerates during all their lives.
But I know a secret question to detect geniuses: What is bigger, bela or covfefe?
There should be a qualifying process like with literally every other fucking job in the planet.
Troomp: I’m a qualified genius! A can bela covfefe even more than Putin!
I think whatever the average life expectancy is at the time of elections, the maximum age you can be president would be 10 years less. That way they have a decade to sit in the garbage world they created
I think the maximum age for any federal office should be tied to the average national life expectancy in some way, so that if these fucks want to keep their office they have a vested interest in passing policy that makes life expectancy go up.
This is the first time I’ve seen a comment about upper limits on age I could see making some amount of sense. Most of the other stuff boils down to bUt tEh gErOnTaCrAcY which is just so tiresome.
This is something that this futurist can get behind, for sure. I am watching these current asshats working directly against increasing the average life expectancy right when I think we are right on the cusp of making massive breakthroughs.
Zelensky should pretend to be Putin during his meet
Just tell Trump he’s Valdimir instead of Volodymyr and watch Trump short circuit
My god this is embarassing.
Trump, 79, Veers From Left to Right in Walk Across Red Carpet
Trump, 79, veered from left to right as he walked on the carpet, unable to stay in its center, before reaching a set meeting point. Trump then stood and clapped as his Russian counterpart, 72, approached him at Joint Base Elmendorf in Anchorage.
Crazy that this is the new normal now…
Once these harmful patterns get popular through the use of media, they never go away
Execute senile pedo king when?
Evidently not gonna happen until Americans experience mass starvation and enslavement by billionaire oligarchs. Right now they are just as passive as the Russian people and are letting king kiddy-fiddler & the GOP do whatever they want.
He tries to scowl and just ends up looking like such a dork.
Okay then NVM lol sorry. To be fair you are still coming off as if you didn’t, and as if people SHOULDN’T vote with harm reduction in mind
Further proof he can’t see anything past his own nose
