and if you read theory, it’s just a detailed explanation of capitalism! Nobody actually has a concrete, actionable prescription of how to make “the good society”, just a general sense that something better is possible if we start doing something with what we already have
First of all, we have plenty of real world examples of socialist societies, and plenty of Marxist theory has been written by people living within these societies. Second, we don’t need a blueprint for a perfect society. The goal is to recognize the problems that we have, try come up with solutions, and iterate on that. It’s the direction of travel that matters.
People have and still are building socialism, and there are many existing socialist states. Many westerners just dismiss them out of hand, either because they’re chauvinists, and/or because they believe every negative thing capitalist media tells them about existing socialism (which validates their supremacist outlook).
Just because Marx’s most important work is Capital doesn’t mean he, Engels, Lenin, and countless others haven’t also written about how to bring about socialism, and how that might be achieved. We even have real, existing socialist societies like Cuba, the PRC, and former USSR where brave revolutionaries have helped show us the way forward.
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That’s a pretty absurd thing to say. There’s lots of theory that isn’t descriptive of capitalism like Kapital is. Pretty much all of Lenin’s main works except Imperialism deal with how socialist society should organize.
But then you’re listening to fucking Lenin.
Yes, one of the proletariat’s greatest heroes and one of history’s most successful revolutionaries.
Yeah, then you’re listening to the fucking person who liberated millions of people from capitalist oppression. The horror!
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Don’t let your masters tell you who your enemy is
Gotta say, it’s weak fucking argument because capitalism isn’t working out for the world either and it doesn’t even work in theory. The only reason it seemed to work for a while was that it was so heavily regulated that it wasn’t really capitalism.
The only places it seemed to work were those that were already established as the centers of capital and were thus benefiting from the expanding frontier of exploitation. Capitalism has run out of land and run out of people outside the imperial core to further exploit and so turns inwards to devour its once-beneficiaries. Internationally and especially in the global south it has served no purpose, ever, except to brutally oppress and exploit.
Regulated capitalism is still capitalism, and the reasons why those stronger regulations have eroded is because the Soviet Union no longer exists in close proximity to Europe as an alternative for the west.
Any time you have to force or coerce a system onto a population against popular sentiment, it’s doomed to fail.
that’s why we need to abolish private property in the means of productions
I’m more in support of socialist revolution to attempt a smooth(er) transition, but eventually yes
There are zero historical examples of capitalists giving up their power without a fight. The history of the 20th century and the cold war is one of repressive counter-revolutions killing hundreds of millions of people in the global south who tried to build socialism.
You’re asking for the impossible bob
I don’t know, I think they’re just confused. Socialist revolution is the transition to the state of society in which private property has been abolished.
Which is why capitalist shitholes of the west are now visibly coming apart at the seams.
Exactly. Capitalism was forced on the population, ergo it is doomed to fail.
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