• Krudler@lemmy.world
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    Ah yes, the very first lesson I’d teach in my multimedia ‘authoring’ class: Back your shit up, here’s 11 ways to do that; if you EVER tell me you lost your work as an excuse I’m going to LAUGH IN YOUR FACE as I assign you a ZERO.

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      I never really liked Google, but their whole thing was supposed to be that you never needed to worry about backups.

      But as Google so often does, they’ve decided to screw people over who relied on their drive and office suite.

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        I never really liked Google, but their whole thing was supposed to be that you never needed to worry about backups.

        no it wasn’t. no sane person ever told you that. everyone always knew situation like the one described here will come sooner or later.

        google might have told you so, but it is of similar value to when tobacco company tells you that smoking is healthy and to please continue smoking (and giving us money).

        they’ve decided to screw people over who relied on their drive and office suite.

        these people are not the customers. i will repeat that, because this part is really important - THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE CUSTOMERS.

        when you don’t pay for the service, you are not the customer, you are the merchandise that is being sold. and you are treated like one. when you are selling screwdrivers and one of them fall of the shelf, you don’t bother yourself thinking if it hurt.

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          Do you think that people don’t pay for Google Drive? The 15 GB they give you is a free sample. Their basic 100 GB cloud storage plan costs 20 USD annually and the premium 2 TB plan costs 200 USD annually. Maybe you don’t pay for Google Drive, but there are over 150 million people who do. These people are paying customers.

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            These people are paying customers.

            well, it is a good thing they are treated as such and there is no problem then 😂

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              That’s certainly a different angle from the one you were parroting in your previous comment.

              these people are not the customers. i will repeat that, because this part is really important - THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE CUSTOMERS

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                no, it is not, you just did not get it.

                now hush, go pay something to google for a privilege to have your data analyzed for targeting your ads as everyone else and feel superior about it, you valued customer!

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                  Sorry, mate. You’re going to have to think for yourself instead of just repeating the catchy things you heard on YouTube or Reddit.

                  You first tried to argue that these people “weren’t the customer, they were the product”, because you thought the purpose of Google Drive was to collect data from its users for advertising purposes. Google doesn’t do that, and they’d be morons if they did because they’d be quickly caught and everyone would get weirded out and stop using their shit.

                  No, the purpose of Google Drive and Google’s office suite being handed out free of charge is the same reason they sell discounted Chromebooks to schools and provide Gmail for free. You are right, it isn’t out of the goodness of their hearts. These are all basically free samples to get people using the product, so when a small portion of those individuals enter into decision-making positions for organisations, they, having tried the product, think “Let’s go with Google Workspace”. Google then earns 60 USD per user per year. Ka-ching.

                  This is a rare instance where the big corporation’s interests happen to be to make the best possible product.

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                    lol. “This is a rare instance where the big corporation’s interests happen to be to make the best possible product,” said a person who suggested to “think for myself”.

                    you need some serious cult deprogramming.

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          Look, you and I know this. I never trusted Google for anything. But I’m just saying, I understand why normies are shocked and feel betrayed.

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            I understand why normies are shocked and feel betrayed.

            they can’t say they have not been warned. sometimes the “we told you so” is not as satisfying as it should be…

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          Actually you can pay for google services including cloud storage and many businesses do this. How are they not customers?

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            How are they not customers?

            if they were treated as such, we wouldn’t be having this discussion, would we?

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        I was training students for a deadline driven technical field. They needed to know that when deadline day comes, it’s not “oopsie doopsy” my dog ate my homework, it’s you are now out of business, everybody you work alongside is jobless, you are bankrupt, get your resume going and good luck dude.

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      This is the policy of most colleges these days. The school will provide a service to do that but it’s up to the student to ensure their work is backed up. Granted most schools only offer OneDrive but still, you’re told ahead of time.

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      Using cloud services as the only copy is literally what I have been told to do working on my PhD by my supervisors. This is in the cybersecurity department. How you think this attitude is acceptable or normal is beyond me.

      The whole point of modern cloud platforms is they worry about this so you don’t have to. Not that people ever actually followed 321 backup policy anyway.

      Edit: at least my stuff is on two different cloud services.

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        I’m sure this was reasonable 10 years ago, when Google didn’t have a policy of erasing people’s files without reason.

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          I am not talking about Google but rather Overleaf and GitHub. Though there is university data kept on Google Drive including students marks.

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        Your supervisors are wrong. How they think that attitude is acceptable or normal is beyond me.