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    Huh i always thought the neoliberal Republican party was in favor of the free market. Why don’t other states simply support their local egg producers and sell cheaper eggs from unhealthy chickens

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    I will never understand the economics of MAGA and how they interpret data. Its always totally illogical.

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    “It is one thing if California passes laws that affects its own State, it is another when those laws affect other States in violation of the U.S. Constitution,” Rollins said.

    The absolute hypocrisy. From the party that happily allows one state sue a doctor in another state for violating their anti-choice doctrine.

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      He really is getting desperate. He already admitted that he actually is on the Epstein list by claiming that any entry mentioning him must be forged…

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    I’m fairly sure that California having cage-size mandates does the opposite of driving up egg prices outside California.

    They’ll drive up California egg prices, sure. But California egg prices have been higher than egg prices outside California. That’s because it’s not legal to sell eggs produced in other states if the producer there doesn’t produce to California’s requirements, which eliminates California consumers as competition for those eggs. If you have a shortage in California production — as happened earlier — what happens is that prices in California go much more expensive, but prices outside California don’t rise as much as they otherwise would, because California consumers aren’t competing for the available supply.

    California’s cage-size mandates may be a bad idea for California egg consumers, but they shouldn’t be driving up prices outside of California a la the Trump administration’s claims.

    I suppose maybe it’s a media strategy, the aim being to fix the idea that it is California’s fault in the minds of people elsewhere.

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      Lots of people outside of California are actually deeply jealous, don’t want to admit it, and there is an entire industry around bashing California and Californians as a result.

      I think Bill Maher is right - a whole lot of Americans want to be Californians.

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      How dare you use math and statistics the way they’re mean to be used. I’m going to anagram the word used and retroactively sue you. You’re sued!

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    Nobody tell him that egg prices dropped dramatically in March and have stayed down, I guess

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    If headlines can’t even mention the battery cages this lawsuit is actually about at all, what are we doing here? Battery cages are horrifying and just the tip of cutlery

    If the industry ever tells you that they treat anyone “humanely” remember that they are arguing to remove the smallest sliver of requirements. There is still a massive amount of cruelty allowed in other areas too (for instance chick culling, forced molting, etc.) and they are still angry on any requirement

    There also has already been a lawsuit on other provisions in Prop 12 that went up to this current SCOTUS in 2023 and was rejected.

    This almost certainly isn’t even actually about the cost of this particular law to the industry. The latest cost changes are almost all driven by bird flu. No, the thing they fear far more than a tiny increase in their costs is that we’ll actually start waking up to this industry. They worry Prop 12 will inspire more action. The more we talk about how things actually look, the more they worry that they’ll become like the fur industry where people wake up and stop buying en masse over its cruelty

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      People decided to care about the ethics of fur farming after synthetic materials made fur obsolete. The majority isn’t going to object to the cruelty of factory farming unless they already have a replacement for factory-farmed eggs.

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        People decided to care about the ethics of fur farming after synthetic materials made fur obsolete

        Not really your main point, but I have a shaving brush made out of synthetic fiber and another made out of badger fur. The synthetic one is a complete pain to use — foam slides right off of it. I don’t use it anymore.

        That’s the only case I can think of where I have a near-identical fur and synthetic form of something to compare. I can readily believe that the difference is eliminated or less-substantial elsewhere, but for that particular sample size of one, the synthetic one was pretty disappointing.

        I can also believe that one can synthesize fibers that are less prone to the sliding — maybe they need to be made rougher? — than the brush manufacturer did with that shaving brush. But they didn’t in that case.

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        There already are a bunch out there and increasing. Everything from aquafaba as a binder to things like Just Egg (both cooks & bakes like eggs from Mung beans), and even starting to see some newer companies using precision fermentation to make plant-based eggs with identical proteins to chicken-based eggs

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    The most straightforward way to keep egg prices low is to have chickens. Since not everyone in D.C. has the space for chickens let’s rip out that patio in the Rose Garden and put like a hundred of the fuckers in there.

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      It’s absolutely insane that people can’t keep well maintained animals on their own property when just anyone can have uneutered cats and dogs, exotic bird, pigeons, rats and even cockroaches. A city nearby has voters opposing urban chickens because:

      1. They don’t want their kids to see chickens getting butchered next door.

      2. The roosters will be loud and wake everyone up.

      Meanwhile my neighbour’s car alarm goes off three times a day and the dog barks all night.

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        My city deals with that by limiting the number of hens (to such a small amount I don’t think it’s worth trying to do meat birds) and completely disallowing roosters.

        I’m OK with these restrictions, I don’t want to deal with a whole chicken farm on 1/8 acre next door and fuuuuuuck roosters.

        Interestingly, we are allowed to have goats but you must have two or three, because apparently goats are so social they need thier own kind or they get depressed

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      At this point, everyone in the capitol are chickens, but I don’t want their eggs…

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    This argument will never hold up in court. The same measures that ensure animals are well treated, will often prevent the spread of diseases. Those inhumane production methods they are advocating, very often lead to higher transmission rates among captive bird populations.

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      It doesn’t matter. This is all about optics and red meat for the base. Trump can’t do anything for the egg prices, so he needs to find a scapegoat. He can now point out that his administration is taking concrete actions to address the egg prices. Scratch the surface and the whole thing crumbles. But that’s the case for most of the Trump cinematic universe.

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          Yes, but the point of this isn’t to win in court. The point is in the fighting. It is a stage performance. The actual outcome of the trial is predetermined but irrelevant to this whole political exercise.

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            Umm, no…the point would be to win in court. If the Trump administration wins, then the entire poultry industry will suffer the consequences…and eggs will just get even more expensive. The outcome is entirely relevant to this whole exercise. This has very real, very practical consequences beyond simple “optics”.