• usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
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    17 hours ago

    If headlines can’t even mention the battery cages this lawsuit is actually about at all, what are we doing here? Battery cages are horrifying and just the tip of cutlery

    If the industry ever tells you that they treat anyone “humanely” remember that they are arguing to remove the smallest sliver of requirements. There is still a massive amount of cruelty allowed in other areas too (for instance chick culling, forced molting, etc.) and they are still angry on any requirement

    There also has already been a lawsuit on other provisions in Prop 12 that went up to this current SCOTUS in 2023 and was rejected.

    This almost certainly isn’t even actually about the cost of this particular law to the industry. The latest cost changes are almost all driven by bird flu. No, the thing they fear far more than a tiny increase in their costs is that we’ll actually start waking up to this industry. They worry Prop 12 will inspire more action. The more we talk about how things actually look, the more they worry that they’ll become like the fur industry where people wake up and stop buying en masse over its cruelty

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      16 hours ago

      People decided to care about the ethics of fur farming after synthetic materials made fur obsolete. The majority isn’t going to object to the cruelty of factory farming unless they already have a replacement for factory-farmed eggs.

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        People decided to care about the ethics of fur farming after synthetic materials made fur obsolete

        Not really your main point, but I have a shaving brush made out of synthetic fiber and another made out of badger fur. The synthetic one is a complete pain to use — foam slides right off of it. I don’t use it anymore.

        That’s the only case I can think of where I have a near-identical fur and synthetic form of something to compare. I can readily believe that the difference is eliminated or less-substantial elsewhere, but for that particular sample size of one, the synthetic one was pretty disappointing.

        I can also believe that one can synthesize fibers that are less prone to the sliding — maybe they need to be made rougher? — than the brush manufacturer did with that shaving brush. But they didn’t in that case.

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        16 hours ago

        There already are a bunch out there and increasing. Everything from aquafaba as a binder to things like Just Egg (both cooks & bakes like eggs from Mung beans), and even starting to see some newer companies using precision fermentation to make plant-based eggs with identical proteins to chicken-based eggs