• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    But 16 years ago, democrats gave us watered-down heritage foundation health policy and haven’t done shit since! Gen Z are clearly a bunch of ingrates.

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      21 days ago

      Don’t forget that ever since the other side has been trying to tear down that watered down version too, so what little people are given is always under threat of being removed

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        21 days ago

        And the side that passed it doesn’t seem to give much of a shit about protecting it. But lord will they act like it’s the “everything is perfect forever act” if someone expects them to do anything.

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          Ratchet Effect baby, Ratchet Effect!

          It’s funny how so many of the policies of Eisenhower - a Republican - are too much to the Left for the present day Democrat Party.

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      21 days ago

      If I recall correctly, they didn’t have enough votes for single-payer and passed the compromise that they could get done .

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        21 days ago

        Single payer was never on the table, (and if centrists have their way it never will be) and the public option was a bill of goods designed to be jettisoned from the outset.

        They had a supermajority. Like always, they find enough no votes.

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          The country gave them a supermajority and then the bar became “Well you didn’t give us every seat in congress so womp womp.”

          Just more bullshit. In no universe does either major party want to lose out on the health insurance confidence scheme bribe money.

          The county met them on their nearly impossible terms which a supermajority is, we met our end. they’re just bullshit artists running a con just like the Republican fascists.

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          21 days ago

          The original plan for ACA had a single-payer option.

          The compromised ACA itself passed the house only by a couple votes. The party is not a monolith and had a number of moderates that opposed single-payer.

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            The original plan for ACA had a single-payer option.

            Like hell it did.

            The compromised ACA

            The version they always intended to pass.

            The party is not a monolith

            They expect the voters to vote as a bloc but won’t do so themselves.

            and had a number of moderates that opposed single-payer.

            No matter how big a majority democrats have, they always find just enough no votes.

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              It’s Manchin, straight up. And then Ted Kennedy died and they lost the supermajority and had to pass what the Senate had already voted on because anything different would be filibustered.

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                  20 days ago

                  You’re right, and let’s not forget the Franken recount that lasted until June. So a very brief window to get stuff done.

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                    They could have completely done away with the filibuster forever with only 50.

                    I will never accept the “we need 60 to get anything done” excuse. It just means “we don’t want to do anything.”

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                21 days ago

                Your article doesn’t back up your ridiculous lie that single payer was the original plan for the ACA.

                Also, gaslighting is abuse, and it’s no surprise that the republican-adjacent wing of the party resorts to it so quickly.

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                The public option was not single payer. It also was never meant to be in the final bill. It was the bargaining chip they were dangling to negotiate with the republicans. When the republicans showed themselves to be unmoveable, they had to get Lieberman to play the part to get rid of it.