Yes. No animal was intentionally harmed or killed to be turned into oil. This puts it in the same category as foraged deer antlers or cicada wings, or I guess compost where you found a squirrel carcass and added it to the pile.
You could argue that animals are harmed by the process of extracting and burning fossil fuels, and thus it’s not vegan. But this isn’t very convincing to me, since that’s a secondary effect and not necessary to the process of consuming fossil fuels. (Or at least not necessary in the same way that killing chickens is necessary in order to make chicken sandwiches, for example.) And if you start worrying about a big web of consequences of your actions, then it seems like you’re mostly just adding stress to your life without actually making the world a better place.
Imo “backyard eggs” are really small potatoes, especially when like 98% of eggs globally come from factory farms. But even in that case, egg-laying hens are basically bred to suffer. They lay an egg every 1-2 days, compared to like once a month in the wild, which takes a huge amount of energy and nutrients. And we’ve bred them to produce eggs too big for their bodies, so that even when they’re treated really well, the vast majority of hens have bone fractures.
That’s why animal sanctuaries will usually either feed the eggs back to the hens, or give them medication to stop them from laying at all.
Of course, this is on top of the fact that 100% of egg-laying hen breeders, everywhere, kill the males shortly after birth because they can’t lay eggs. See this for more information.
Cows need to be impregnated by introducing an arm in their anus and holding their cervix so they can introduce a rod with semen in their uterus.
Male cows and chickens are useless to the industry so they usually get killed soon after birth.
Chickens usually are kept in cages the size of an A4 paper, cows also usually are very badly treated in order to be milked. Check out https://3minutes.wtf/ so you can see that even what the industry calls the “best animal treatment” is still very inhumane.
It’s not uncommon for people in rural areas to have chicken around. Those chicken are taken care of, and roam around big spaces. Those chicken will also lay eggs on their own without any harm done to them. Most harm done is denying fertilization that would be similar to denying of reproduction to pet dogs or cats.
Situations happening in industrial farming are not universal. Specifically about the egg thing I go out of my way to buy eggs that are classified in a way that prove that the chicken are not in that conditions of living their whole life in a small cage.
Yes. No animal was intentionally harmed or killed to be turned into oil. This puts it in the same category as foraged deer antlers or cicada wings, or I guess compost where you found a squirrel carcass and added it to the pile.
You could argue that animals are harmed by the process of extracting and burning fossil fuels, and thus it’s not vegan. But this isn’t very convincing to me, since that’s a secondary effect and not necessary to the process of consuming fossil fuels. (Or at least not necessary in the same way that killing chickens is necessary in order to make chicken sandwiches, for example.) And if you start worrying about a big web of consequences of your actions, then it seems like you’re mostly just adding stress to your life without actually making the world a better place.
So if a vegan has a pet chicken and treats it well, can the vegan eat the eggs?
Imo “backyard eggs” are really small potatoes, especially when like 98% of eggs globally come from factory farms. But even in that case, egg-laying hens are basically bred to suffer. They lay an egg every 1-2 days, compared to like once a month in the wild, which takes a huge amount of energy and nutrients. And we’ve bred them to produce eggs too big for their bodies, so that even when they’re treated really well, the vast majority of hens have bone fractures.
That’s why animal sanctuaries will usually either feed the eggs back to the hens, or give them medication to stop them from laying at all.
Of course, this is on top of the fact that 100% of egg-laying hen breeders, everywhere, kill the males shortly after birth because they can’t lay eggs. See this for more information.
I had a “pet” chicken when I was younger. One day we woke up and cockle-doodle-doo. It was a boy. I came home from school and he was gone.
Rip.
‘Eggs are really small potatoes?’ Got it. Off to make some potato salad.
Same argument could be used for Eggs and Milk then, those are not considered vegan, but in the end the animal does not get hurt.
Cows need to be impregnated by introducing an arm in their anus and holding their cervix so they can introduce a rod with semen in their uterus.
Male cows and chickens are useless to the industry so they usually get killed soon after birth.
Chickens usually are kept in cages the size of an A4 paper, cows also usually are very badly treated in order to be milked. Check out https://3minutes.wtf/ so you can see that even what the industry calls the “best animal treatment” is still very inhumane.
But what about self farmed eggs?
It’s not uncommon for people in rural areas to have chicken around. Those chicken are taken care of, and roam around big spaces. Those chicken will also lay eggs on their own without any harm done to them. Most harm done is denying fertilization that would be similar to denying of reproduction to pet dogs or cats.
Situations happening in industrial farming are not universal. Specifically about the egg thing I go out of my way to buy eggs that are classified in a way that prove that the chicken are not in that conditions of living their whole life in a small cage.
Males are still killed at 1 day old.
Domesticated chickens were bred to lay about 1 egg a day when their wild counterpart lay about 1 egg per month. That’s a huge toll on their body.
You seem to care and go out of your way to avoid needless suffering. Fortunately it’s easy to stop supporting animal exploitation.
I only buy eggs from a local farmer and they have their chicken run around in a rather large arrea
Isn’t this just vegetarianism at that point