• Sal@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    What’s wrong with teaching kids how to use guns early? It’s better than them playing with guns they find in the shelf and end up shooting themselves or their siblings.

    The problem is always the same: white supremacy. Every mass shooter has come from that, maybe try to curb that shit before you try throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks?

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      7 hours ago

      Nothing wrong with teaching kids to use guns early but a lot of America has a cultural fetish for firearms and it’s important not to pass that to your kids

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        The “fetish for firearms” comes from not treating firearms like tools, and that’s something actual good teachers would do a lot better than ammosexual parents.

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        Well, there’s 400 million guns in all of the US and about 1/3rd of all households on the US have a gun on them. Keeping kids ignorant about guns when 1/3rd of them have one at their homes (not owned by them, mind you) is a recipe for accidents.

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      10 hours ago

      How about doing something about the guns lying around on shelves instead?
      And how is that underlying problem different for people of color?

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        Every single mass shooter was a radicalized right wing white supremacist.

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        are there lots of people of color doing racially motivated mass shootings that i haven’t heard of?

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          Well actually, we were just about to hear Kirk prove that they are, with completely real facts and statistics.

          Unfortunately, he lost his voice right at the exact moment that he was spreading unfounded hate speech about trans people and minorities.

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        8 hours ago

        There is no benefit on not teaching kids to respect guns as dangerous devices.

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          There is a slight difference between teaching kids that guns are dangerous and teaching kids how to use them.

          You can also totally teach kids the dangers of car traffic without having them drive one.

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            Kids used to learn gun safety classes and even bring their guns to school for target practice later.

            Sheltering kids from guns in a country with more guns than people is not a good decision.

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              Normalizing using them is also not a good decision.

              And I must confess, such statements sound so completely bizarre to me that I instantly think them to be satire.

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                7 hours ago

                Brother, it’s already normalized. Acting like keeping kids ignorant will stop gun violence is a fairytale dream. Literally every person who takes a gun class gets drilled through all of it to NEVER point it at anyone. It’s not just about learning how to use them, it’s about how to be safe with them. Do you also think teaching a kid defensive driving before they can drive is useless?

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                  I am actually somewhat with you on that.
                  But you don’t need to do active shooting (or even have access to a real gun) to drill that.

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                    I’m of the opinion that teaching stuff has to be hands-on, especially with the bad attention span of children nowadays. I don’t learn very much from theory, and I think a lot of neurodivergent kids don’t do it, either.

                    I’m just saying that, in a country where there’s more guns than people, keeping children ignorant of the realities of handling a gun safely is a liability.