From watching videos like this, something is obvious to me. Half of a cop’s job is seeking moral justification from the in-group for their inhuman shit.
Another officer says, “They’re starting to resist more now,” to which an officer replies: “We’re going to end up shooting some of them.”
That feels too casual of a conversation when discussing fucking murder.
Also, I believe it should be illegal for law enforcement to be incentived to make arrests. If I were in a position to write laws, I’d make it illegal for cops to get bonuses. Fuck the idea they get more money to ruin people’s lives.
If there have to be bonuses, they should be reserved for when a situation is successfully de-escalated without violence. I wouldn’t have a problem incentivizing a cop for defusing a situation properly. The fact that they still get paid bonuses after doing something shitty is where I take issue. And getting paid leave after killing someone? That’s straight-up encouragement right there.
You mean like perhaps saying there’s been no crime in this area for 90 days good job police versus everything that’s happening now?
This is why we need to start shooting them. They’re lawless criminals and we are merely defending ourselves.
What are you waiting for?
Nothing. I’ve increased my gun ownership threefold and am getting my concealed carry permit in two weeks.
Oh, so you’re telling people to start breaking the law why you yourself follow it and don’t risk anything? Clever.
They never said to start breaking the law. They said people should start defending themselves, which is legal.
Yeah, I read it as “if I’m threatened, I’ll respond in kind. You should do the same.” Not “go out and murder cops right now.”
Responding in kind would be shooting at cops that are about to shoot you. Here we’re talking about cops detaining people. Shooting them would be illegal. If you doubt that go ask a lawyer before buying a gun.
Yeah, because shooting at police detailing people is legal…
Look, I 100% agree police is in the wrong here but the way the legal system is set up you can argue that in court. They detain you, put you in front of a judge and if you can demonstrate that your detention wasn’t legal you will be freed. The law in no way allows you to shoot cops because you think they don’t have the right to do something. Telling people to shoot cops is advocating for breaking the law, pure and simple. It’s not for me to tell if US is at the stage when civil was is the only way out and you shoot just start killing each other but don’t pretend it would somehow be legal.
I love it when a single comment is enough for me to know that blocking someone is the appropriate thing to do.
Underground railroad, anyone?
A highway patrol officer asked everyone in the van to identify themselves, then called for backup. Officers with US border patrol arrived on the scene.
Video footage of the incident captured by Laynez-Ambrosio, an 18-year-old US citizen, appears to show a group of officers in tactical gear working together to violently detain the three men*, two of whom are undocumented. They appear to use a stun gun on one man, put another in a chokehold and can be heard telling Laynez-Ambrosio: “You’ve got no rights here. You’re a migo, brother.” Afterward, agents can be heard bragging and making light of the arrests, calling the stun gun use “funny” and quipping: “You can smell that … $30,000 bonus.”
Scumbags. Being taken, no Miranda rights read.
Miranda basically hasn’t been a thing in a while though… https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/supreme-court-rejects-promise-miranda-rights
There’s no repercussion for a pig to not read or even provide Miranda rights.
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You agree to be a member of the community, you agree to our rules. Do not call for violence.
Arguing with the mods just makes you look like this:
Well, I disagree that comparison is valid. When they commit violence, can I call for self defense? How long do you think you can stop the call for violence against the violent before the violent show up at your door?
What happens in the real world has no bearing on Lemmy. Do not call for violence here. It’s a super simple rule.
But what happens on lemmy can have an impact on the real world. Just like these police. When you have a job that negatively affects other people, you don’t just get to go home at the end of the day and not have that follow you.
What happens in the real world is outside the rules and restrictions of Lemmy, here, we do not allow calls for violence.
Our house, our rules.
Fuck any rule that aids fascism. And anyone who aids a fascist should get a knock on their door.
So you’re a fascist, got it.
You have no idea what I am and am not. Outside of Lemmy I’m allowed to make my own rules, as are you.
Within Lemmy? You abide by the guidelines or get out.
We won’t have calls to violence in our communities.
So the rule needs to be changed. Deal with it.
Fortunately you don’t get to make the rules here.
Go to a different lemmy server and block lemmy.world from your client. These tankies can moderate themselves all day long.
