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when i first heard about the male loneliness epidemic i was like oh yeah close camaraderie and bonding between men is often discouraged in favor of competition or, if not discouraged, at least filtered through a lens of individualism that precludes deep connections. and then i learned what people meant by it (men arent getting laid) to which i say skill issue

to all the men out there not getting laid: try less hard to get laid and try more hard to be an enjoyable and relaxing presence

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
    21·
    9 days ago

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feedback

    The notion of cause-and-effect has to be handled carefully when applied to feedback systems:

    Simple causal reasoning about a feedback system is difficult because the first system influences the second and second system influences the first, leading to a circular argument. This makes reasoning based upon cause and effect tricky, and it is necessary to analyze the system as a whole.

    • Impassionata@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      8 days ago

      The solution to a complex system isn’t to fret about how complex it is, it’s to cut the feedback loop.

      Weak men who developed toxic politics are caught in a feedback loop. Cut them out of it. Not complicated, just abrasive.

      But you can continue constructing your nuanced and sympathetic understanding. These men just need to be understood, that will help them.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        8 days ago

        You’re advocating genocide, or at least, one step away from it, and you don’t even seem to realize it.

        You also seem to have no grasp of how complex systems or feedback work, given that feedback is a necessary and inherent part of many systems and cannot just be ‘cut out’.

        Quite frankly, you’re more toxic then most of the men you seem to despise.

        • Impassionata@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          8 days ago

          it does not follow from the marginalization of the other that every time you experience the marginalization of the other, it is directly connected to genocide. humans are more than ideal atoms, and some of them need to be communicated with in the language of harsh blunt truth.

          Men who are unfuckable because of their politics need to man up. If you are spending several hundred words to say: “please integrate a more healthy relationship with masculinity” which is literally just telling them to man up with extra steps that they are uninterested in, you should consider that they are man enough to need to hear: “man up.”