• LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    13 days ago

    They try to claim he reached for a knife on the floor, the video is pretty clear in the fact that he is no threat and isn’t reaching for anything from before the window is broken till after he is dragged out.

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      13 days ago

      In fact, it’s very clear his entire intent is to try to make it impossible for them to claim he was reaching for something. And they still claimed it… like, if he had complied and reached to take off his seatbelt, they probably would have shot him…

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        13 days ago

        Yea but did you notice he’s black? What are they supposed to do? Not brutalize him?

  • Drusas@fedia.io
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    13 days ago

    How does having your headlights off on a cloudy day justify forcing a motorist out of their vehicle?

    “Part of that stems from the distance and perspective of the recording cell phone camera,” the sheriff said in a statement, adding that the video did not capture events that occurred before officers decided to arrest McNeil.

    Yeah, because they were still in their car when they decided to arrest him for no reason.

  • Pacattack57@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    I saw the body cam footage. While they definitely used excessive force when they beat him up, he resisted arrest and was being overall combative. When the cop asked him for his ids he says no and slams the door closed and locks it. (His window was broken so he was communicating by opening the door)

    The cop showed amazing composure by not immediately breaking the window and pulling him out. If that would have happened imo it would have been justified.

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      10 days ago

      Yeah, you wont get anywhere with most of these guys. Sure the cops were violent. There is nothing preventing that. These same folks on here saying stupid shit about whether the guy deserved it are not accepting it doesn’t matter. Cops get a free pass and until they face any consequences it wont change. They see anything saying the dipshit in the car is somehow at fault and they lose all ability to reason. The people on here complaining the loudest will be the ones complying the most. You can bet they will be smooching those cops taint.

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      12 days ago

      The original intent of the stop was a headlight violation.

      The problem with that is that it wasn’t raining, invalidating the reason for the stop.

      From that point forward, the interaction should have immediately stopped. Without PC for the headlight violation, the police had no authority to demand ID. Since they couldn’t demand ID, they didn’t have a reason to arrest. That invalidates the resisting charge.

      Start to finish this was a crazy interaction and I hope every cop involved has a very happy get lynched in front of their families. :)

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        12 days ago

        I am not arguing that point at all. His rights were 100% violated. But you and everyone else fail to make decisions based on reality.

        Everyone knows police abuse is a problem. Would you rather be right or dead? Instead of complying and filing suit later, he decided to make a bad situation 100x worse. As I said based on his reaction in slamming the door it is 100% reasonable that the officer making the stop would fear for his life. Regardless that the stop was illegal, IN THAT MOMENT, the cop would have been justified in drawing his weapon. Thankfully he didn’t and the young man is alive.

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          12 days ago

          How exactly would an officer fear for his life when a door was slammed specifically to put distance between the victim and the officer?

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            12 days ago

            Go watch the tape bro. You don’t have to take my word for it. There is a reason you’re only seeing the perspective from inside the car on social media.

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    13 days ago

    The sheriff said the cellphone camera footage from inside the car “does not comprehensively capture the circumstances surrounding the incident.”

    Bullshit.

    As always, ACAB.

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    13 days ago

    Talk about a bunch of dudes with fragile egos getting their feelings hurt because the man has the gaul to question their authority and demand their supervisor. That’s such limp dick behavior and is a fucking disgrace. Even if the cops were in the right for pulling him over (not having your headlights on? Really?) that’s just ridiculous.

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      12 days ago

      Headlights off at 4pm on an overcast day. Not raining, not even misty. Just overcast.

      People saying the victim deserved it because her didn’t act like a “perfect victim” are soft between the ears

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    12 days ago

    I know no one wants to hear this but he was asked multiple times to get out and refused to show ID. They shouldn’t have handled it like they did but dude fucked around and found out.

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      11 days ago

      They were capable of handling the situation without violence.

      Do you really think every citizen who doesn’t comply with instructions should be punched in the face? What about people who panic and freeze up? Hard of hearing, or easily confused?

      You are setting dangerous precedent if you tolerate this kind of abuse from law enforcement. Be better.

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        11 days ago

        Of course they could. Did I suggest they couldn’t. In case you are unsure about that. No I didn’t. I’m not condoning what they did but we all know the way it goes today and the fact that the guy didn’t include the footage where he was winding up the cops means that he was trying to hide it and suggest they did it for without any interaction before.

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          Of course they could. Did I suggest they couldn’t.

          You’re backpedaling. Stand by your words.

          the guy didn’t include the footage where he was winding up the cops

          You didn’t read the article? There’s no need to provide that footage, it’s all cited in the source material.

          Been a pleasure. Have a day.

  • kreskin@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Cops casually assaulting people for no real reason has become the norm. 30 years ago that would have been a crime.

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      12 days ago

      30 years ago…? 30 years ago they wouldn’t have been on camera doing it, you’d just never know it happened.

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        12 days ago

        that… sounds right. I guess 30 years ago I wouldn’t have expected to be assaulted by the cops, and now I 100% do. And everyone else in the world sees the US as a very dangerous place to visit now too. Used to be different, but maybe it is just perception of what was always there.

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          It’s crazy because I grew up “knowing that’s just how things were”. I’m brown and my name has way too many vowels, so I knew to keep my head down when the police might be involved. Then I learned that’s not the norm everywhere in the world and my mind was blown.

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      12 days ago

      It’s still a crime. Americans just don’t care if cops commit crimes. If they did, they would do something about it.

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        11 days ago

        I havent tested it out, but I feel like we’d lose in court trying to call any cop assaults a crime. They have qualified immunity-- thats usually just complete immunity.

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            9 days ago

            we know. And no US political party will change anything. Biden increased police funding when it was brought up, and Trump just funneled more of our money to “law enforcement” than most countries spend on their entire defense budgets. We spend 1.5 trillion per year on unaccountable law enforcement thugs now.