It’s more like choosing to not use grenades that blow up when shaken even though the enemy is using them, simply because you know that, sure, sometimes it blows up when you want it to and has the correct effect, but more often it blows up in your own face.
Any use of AI will always bring people out, those who will condemn you for using it at all, and those who will assume you are on Their side and bring their bullshit with them, making you look even worse than the clown you are for using AI at all. There is also the fact that AI is cringe and you will be seen as cringe, not as funny or influential, for using it. It also often makes mistakes, mistakes you notice less and less as you use it more, but others will continue to notice and use them to undermine you.
Basically, it makes you dumber to use it at all, and makes everyone hate you. You gain nothing from using AI, and lose so much. It is rare that AI is ever helpful or can do something to make you look good. Maybe 1 out of a 100 attempts you will make something interesting or funny using it, but all the other times will be harsh failures. That’s not even getting into the economic and ecological impact of AI.
As a preface, that’s a very emotional comment that makes you look like a child throwing a tantrum. I will touch on a few things anyways.
You act like both sides are the same but only one is gatekeeping. I don’t care if you use it, I won’t ask you too. Sure Google is shoving down your throat but take it up with them. As an individual, I won’t ostracize you for doing whatever you want.
On the other hand, as an individual, you are brigading, being belligerant, trying to force it out of our community and in general being a little baby about it.
I also think it’s completely laughable to say it has no uses. I think this is really a work experience/domain thing tho. If you don’t work in an office and don’t use computers, I guess it can come off that way. And that’s only if you don’t consider entertainment a use case.
“that’s a very emotional comment that makes you look like a child throwing a tantrum”
HA
“You act like both sides are the same but only one is gatekeeping.”
…The “two sides” I mentioned are “people who like AI” and “people who hate AI”
“you are brigading, being belligerant, trying to force it out of our community and in general being a little baby about it.”
*Belligerent. Also, funny how you get so defensive over someone not liking AI and pointing out facts about how it is actually harmful to your critical thinking skills. Here is just one example article focused on how AI can affect children, please actually read it and not just feed it to an AI to give you a breakdown of it: https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/FFF-Guide/AI_and_Children-145.aspx
“I think this is really a work experience/domain thing tho. If you don’t work in an office and don’t use computers, I guess it can come off that way.”
I work in IT. I have been forced to learn a Lot about it and the dangers it poses for our office, as well as seeing how divisive it has been among the various departments.
“And that’s only if you don’t consider entertainment a use case.”
Ah yes, burning the environment is a great form of entertainment, all so you can see more slop with 0 value.
AI does have use cases, such as in the medical field, but not LLMs, not the current garbage “AI” that we have. You want something good for AI? Look here: https://www.realgoodai.org/
I wouldn’t let my children use ai, just like I wouldn’t let them talk to strangers? The list of drawbacks are basically a list for using the internet in general in the first place. It’s some serious “video games are dangerous vibes”
You work in IT, so you are clearly too good at coding to need it in small scripts and your environment is too complicated for the bigger thing. But don’t you have documentation to write, Excel sheets, test scripts, etc. ?
I find uses. It’s rewriting information I give it and everything is verified, I’m able to read and tweak it’s output like an adult. Clearly your coworkers are also finding uses, if you have to deal with the fallout (lol).
Entertainment is valid. This is a meme community, the bar is if it make me laugh. I prefer proper OC, but I’ll take AI OC over reposts any day.
On the environmental front, I think it’s overstated. I use mostly local llms, so my impact is the same as playing a demanding game. Data centre’s serve a lot of people, we just need a renewable grid and better laws so they aren’t put in places with no water just because it’s cheaper for them. The real problem is transport, both cars and flights, and shipments of consumer goods. Any activity that’s solely technology driven is better for the environment imo.
AI is dangerous to anyone, children are just the most vulnerable. Look at how many people have suffered mental breaks due to AI encouraging them to self harm or to harm others.
I would never trust an AI to write anything for me, not only is it prone to making mistakes, I have no way to ensure the data I give it isn’t going to be sent off to a datacenter somewhere to be used for unknown purposes. I don’t Just work in IT, I work in Financial IT, and we take security compliance seriously.
Nothing output by an AI is verified, they cannot site their sources.
I won’t even bother to argue on the environmental front, due solely to the fact you just admitted to not caring about it at all.
Either way, it’s very clear you are an AI tech bro, and you’ll support it to the end even as you make yourself look like an absolute clown. I have no further reason to attempt argue with you, just like I see no reason to argue with Trump supporters or Elon Musk supporters. At the very least, I have put information out there to combat your misinformation for anyone who decides to read this thread.
You’re conflating your workplace with every other. Most dont work in financial IT with its stringent security measures.
I would never trust
Nothing output by an AI is verified
You can’t trust yourself to verify it? Are you a monkey unable to read its output and conclude if it properly rewrote and reformatted what you gave it?
If I give it the info and it formats it in a table, I’m not trusting it with anything, I’m literally checking it right after. Still faster then me typing the table by hand.
It can cite its sources, so if I’m trying to learn about a subject or getting info on a product/service, I just click the links it gives me.
It’s easy to learn how to use these tools properly. You can also not use them, like, just don’t. It’s fine. I don’t get the tantrum everytime the subject comes up and the constant gatekeeping tho.
Instead of arguing with an AI bro, or more accurately the chatbot he is feeding my replies to, here is a set of links to information about the dangers of AI, as well as news stories:
It’s more like choosing to not use grenades that blow up when shaken even though the enemy is using them, simply because you know that, sure, sometimes it blows up when you want it to and has the correct effect, but more often it blows up in your own face.
We are talking about using ai to make memes? What is blowing up in our face in this scenario?
Any use of AI will always bring people out, those who will condemn you for using it at all, and those who will assume you are on Their side and bring their bullshit with them, making you look even worse than the clown you are for using AI at all. There is also the fact that AI is cringe and you will be seen as cringe, not as funny or influential, for using it. It also often makes mistakes, mistakes you notice less and less as you use it more, but others will continue to notice and use them to undermine you.
Basically, it makes you dumber to use it at all, and makes everyone hate you. You gain nothing from using AI, and lose so much. It is rare that AI is ever helpful or can do something to make you look good. Maybe 1 out of a 100 attempts you will make something interesting or funny using it, but all the other times will be harsh failures. That’s not even getting into the economic and ecological impact of AI.
As a preface, that’s a very emotional comment that makes you look like a child throwing a tantrum. I will touch on a few things anyways.
You act like both sides are the same but only one is gatekeeping. I don’t care if you use it, I won’t ask you too. Sure Google is shoving down your throat but take it up with them. As an individual, I won’t ostracize you for doing whatever you want.
On the other hand, as an individual, you are brigading, being belligerant, trying to force it out of our community and in general being a little baby about it.
I also think it’s completely laughable to say it has no uses. I think this is really a work experience/domain thing tho. If you don’t work in an office and don’t use computers, I guess it can come off that way. And that’s only if you don’t consider entertainment a use case.
HA
…The “two sides” I mentioned are “people who like AI” and “people who hate AI”
*Belligerent. Also, funny how you get so defensive over someone not liking AI and pointing out facts about how it is actually harmful to your critical thinking skills. Here is just one example article focused on how AI can affect children, please actually read it and not just feed it to an AI to give you a breakdown of it: https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/FFF-Guide/AI_and_Children-145.aspx
I work in IT. I have been forced to learn a Lot about it and the dangers it poses for our office, as well as seeing how divisive it has been among the various departments.
Ah yes, burning the environment is a great form of entertainment, all so you can see more slop with 0 value.
AI does have use cases, such as in the medical field, but not LLMs, not the current garbage “AI” that we have. You want something good for AI? Look here: https://www.realgoodai.org/
I wouldn’t let my children use ai, just like I wouldn’t let them talk to strangers? The list of drawbacks are basically a list for using the internet in general in the first place. It’s some serious “video games are dangerous vibes”
You work in IT, so you are clearly too good at coding to need it in small scripts and your environment is too complicated for the bigger thing. But don’t you have documentation to write, Excel sheets, test scripts, etc. ?
I find uses. It’s rewriting information I give it and everything is verified, I’m able to read and tweak it’s output like an adult. Clearly your coworkers are also finding uses, if you have to deal with the fallout (lol).
Entertainment is valid. This is a meme community, the bar is if it make me laugh. I prefer proper OC, but I’ll take AI OC over reposts any day.
On the environmental front, I think it’s overstated. I use mostly local llms, so my impact is the same as playing a demanding game. Data centre’s serve a lot of people, we just need a renewable grid and better laws so they aren’t put in places with no water just because it’s cheaper for them. The real problem is transport, both cars and flights, and shipments of consumer goods. Any activity that’s solely technology driven is better for the environment imo.
AI is dangerous to anyone, children are just the most vulnerable. Look at how many people have suffered mental breaks due to AI encouraging them to self harm or to harm others.
I would never trust an AI to write anything for me, not only is it prone to making mistakes, I have no way to ensure the data I give it isn’t going to be sent off to a datacenter somewhere to be used for unknown purposes. I don’t Just work in IT, I work in Financial IT, and we take security compliance seriously.
Nothing output by an AI is verified, they cannot site their sources.
I won’t even bother to argue on the environmental front, due solely to the fact you just admitted to not caring about it at all.
Either way, it’s very clear you are an AI tech bro, and you’ll support it to the end even as you make yourself look like an absolute clown. I have no further reason to attempt argue with you, just like I see no reason to argue with Trump supporters or Elon Musk supporters. At the very least, I have put information out there to combat your misinformation for anyone who decides to read this thread.
You’re conflating your workplace with every other. Most dont work in financial IT with its stringent security measures.
You can’t trust yourself to verify it? Are you a monkey unable to read its output and conclude if it properly rewrote and reformatted what you gave it?
If I give it the info and it formats it in a table, I’m not trusting it with anything, I’m literally checking it right after. Still faster then me typing the table by hand.
It can cite its sources, so if I’m trying to learn about a subject or getting info on a product/service, I just click the links it gives me.
It’s easy to learn how to use these tools properly. You can also not use them, like, just don’t. It’s fine. I don’t get the tantrum everytime the subject comes up and the constant gatekeeping tho.
Instead of arguing with an AI bro, or more accurately the chatbot he is feeding my replies to, here is a set of links to information about the dangers of AI, as well as news stories:
Study Shows AI Chatbots Can Blindly Repeat Incorrect Medical Details
New study warns of risks in AI mental health tools
Companies That Tried to Save Money With AI Are Now Spending a Fortune Hiring People to Fix Its Mistakes
Artificial Intelligence (AI) and Information Literacy
Students have been called to the office — and even arrested — for AI surveillance false alarms
AI Fuels Increase in Ransomware Attacks Against Schools
A man asked ChatGPT how to remove sodium chloride from his diet. It landed him in the hospital
Explained: Generative AI’s environmental impact
Teens are increasingly turning to AI companions, and it could be harming them
https://www.msn.com/en-us/technology/artificial-intelligence/teens-are-increasingly-turning-to-ai-companions-and-it-could-be-harming-them/ar-AA1K1yJB
Also, just for good measure, here is realgoodai again: https://www.realgoodai.org/what-we-do