• balderdash@lemmy.zipOP
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    2 days ago

    Are you referring to democratic socialists who try to work within the law (like Bernie and Mamdani)?

    • Commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 days ago

      Yes, but also ML’s that come from “Deprogram” podcast who uncritically support China/Russia/Nationalism and liberal types who rally behind capitalist political figures for “more liberalism” and who consider it class consciousness (like what’s happening in Turkey and Serbia).

      Not necessarily calling these movements and groups bad, there might be class conscious particles in them even, but they ultimately reinforce our class society and the ideas/mechanisms of it.

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        23 hours ago

        I think human nature prevents a non-stratified society, unfortunately. Maybe in a way similar to greed being an evolutionary construct some of us are now capable of overcoming, it seems like some people feel an innate need to feel superior to others. Without authoritarian measures to “make” people be part of a collective, you can’t really force it, and lots of people are selfish greedy myopic fools.