Eisenhower gets credit for building the Interstate Highway system despite not pouring any concrete.

Ok, rant time!!!

I worked for Vint Cerf back in the early 90’s. I became aware of the politics around it when Al Gore pushed for funding so the Internet could grow into something bigger than a University/Military communication system. Rush Limbaugh was on the radio daily railing against Al Gore’s Boondoggle. Clinton/Gore secured funding and the Internet exploded in use.

During the 1999 Presidential election, Republicans took Al Gore’s greatest political accomplishment, getting Congress to fund the creation of the Internet, and made it a joke.

Vint Cerf wrote this letter as a result:

https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~fessler/misc/funny/gore,net.txt

You can’t expect me not to reinvent the wheel.

As we post on Lemmy, which is a reinvention of a reinvention of a reinvention of Usenet from 1979.

Some of Amd GPU work is in Israel.

Amd is already in Israel.

Cleaning up toxic waste at a single lake or river site

It wasn’t a single river and single lake. It was everywhere. There wasn’t a clean river, large lake or bay in the US. The examples I gave were only the most publicized.

The air in all cities, everywhere, was so polluted the moths evolved to be black.

https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/plants-algae/signs-recovering-harbor#%3A~%3Atext=In+the+1970s%2C+43+communities%2Cof+Shame”+in+the+1980s!

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/baltimores-swimmable-harbor-movement#%3A~%3Atext=Until+the+1970s%2C+inland+industries%2Cfilter+and+refresh+the+water.

https://www.californiasun.co/photos-when-l-a-smog-was-so-bad-people-suspected-a-gas-attack/

We’re at 415 parts per million in CO2 concentrations. That’s orders of magnitude in difference, and the carbon that is already present will take multiple human lifetimes to be removed via natural means.

Unchecked CFC’s would have resulted in the sterilization of the entire planet. In the 1970’s pollution was at a level where all life was destroyed in many local ecologies. It wasn’t “It’s too hot here so native species died out and were replaced with desert species.” It was complete annihilation of all life in the area.

Global warming means a few billion die. It’s an extremely serious problem but we are improving.

https://rhg.com/research/preliminary-us-greenhouse-gas-estimates-for-2024/

You don’t necessarily need tech to monopolize an industry. Amazon is warehouses with delivery service.

“Let children do it, but not my children.”

Climate change isn’t the same as cleaning up litter?

I didn’t mention cleaning up litter at all! In fact I specifically said it wasn’t.

It’s on a global scale of gigatons of emissions,

I already mentioned CFC’s which required global cooperation on a scale never seen before.

This is bigger than anything in human history

Everything is bigger than anying human history because we have more people.

Stop fucking comparing it to cleaning up some fucking tires in a river.

WHAT THE FUCK? QUOTE ME.

Difference is that, those problems had relatively easier solution which was being worked on.

It required global cooperation to ban CFC’s and restore the ozone layer. It required destroying large corporations so the the rivers could be clean again. These things were done and can continue to be done.

This does not hold for global warming, we are not even trying!

Absolutely not true. 1.08 terawatts of power are solar in China. 1.6Terrawatts in US. 107.6 GW in Germany. France has always been Nuclear. Massive EV adoption in China and Europe.

it’s pathetic that you try to look at things rose-tinted

I grew up in the 1970’s when you couldn’t swim or fish in the rivers. The city was filthy, and not in today’s sanitized “oh there’s some trash”. Every surface in the city was covered in black grime. Moths in cities evolved into black variations because cities weren’t white concrete- they were black grime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution

Statues were crumbling from acid rain.

The world is so much cleaner than 50 years ago.

This is what has been done recently:

Past improvements don’t mean we need to stop!

This was all public in 2016 and Republicans voted for Trump anyway.

50 years ago most waterways in the US were so polluted as to be dead to wildlife. Cities buildings were black with pollution.

Global warming is actually minor compared to the immediate death people were facing decades ago. For example unchecked ozone depletion could have resulted in the destruction of all rice crops on Earth. An analogy that comes to mind is the Black Plague vs Covid. It’s not that Covid wasn’t (isn’t) a problem. And like Covid we are deploying modern technology to fix the problems. Solar is being installed everywhere. The US is going backwards temporarily. But the US isn’t the world. Europe and China are getting things done.

People who see the problems are the absolutely not the ones who should be killing themselves. They’re the only ones that can contribute to the future.

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IPO after becoming a monopoly has been a thing for a while. Amazon ran negative revenue for an extremely long time to run all competition out of business.

I saw a YouTube where you can replace the rollers with nylon rollers to make it super quiet.

Your premise is that it’s going to get a lot worse. But the past 50 years has been improving. It’s therefore reasonable to believe we will keep improving.

The Antarctic used to have a giant ozone hole. In the late 1960’s, Lake Erie was dead from pollution. The Cuyahoga River in Ohio was so polluted it caught fire. Rain was so acidic that statues in cities were dissolving.

Read history instead of following social media hype. Despite Trump turning back the clock a few years, the environment has improved dramatically over the past 50 years.

Bezos is a tool but The Boys on Amazon has been non stop anti fascist.

Trey and Matt were vocal libertarians for a long time and only recently realized it’s a morally bankrupt political position.

For example they mocked Gore for warning about global warming. There was no “both sides are to be mocked” in that episode. It was, “Gore is a complete idiot.” That was season 10. 12 years later they realized their mistake and made an apology episode where they showed Gore was right all along.

So yeah, good for them for finally coming around but the OP isn’t wrong that they lead their libertarian mob towards the cliff.

Roosevelt did great things for Americans while still being capitalist. The needle can be moved left without violent revolution.

“Both sides bad” is weak sauce.