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  • Well, my old phone, with LineageOS. It is a OnePlus 8, but I probably wouldn’t recommended OnePlus phones generally, I was hopeing that it eventually get mainline treatment, like the 6T, but that hasn’t happen yet.

    I rooted it for managing battery charge limits, among other stuff. Having a root shell in termux makes debugging or fixing app and other issues very easy.



  • Me? Who is talking about me?

    Granted I used and I am still using a phone that is rooted next to my GOS phone. Rooting makes it easier to backup app data, cleanup the device, customize battery charge settings, patch apps, edit app memory, and, debloat, I guess, but I never have done that. I just wasn’t assuming that the person rooting their android did it just to debloat, they might have more/other use-cases. But it is their device, they should have the freedom to do with it, whatever they want in all cases. How much security and against which kind of attacks and which attacker one might want to defend more or less and to what cost of personal freedom is a personal question, that cannot (and should not) be answered by some outside entity for an individum, if breaches only affect them.

    Was it IRobot where the intelligence decided that in order to keep every human save, they are all placed under house arrest? Security has its cost, that shouldn’t be ignored.

    If someone wants root access, the reason doesn’t matter, it is their device, they should get it. Asking that is like asking why someone want to leave their house, and were they want to go before letting them or trying to convince them that they don’t actually need to leave because it isn’t save for them and that they should be happy with what they have.


  • Sure, I get that.

    But there are also people that don’t use banking apps or pay via NFC, etc. They use their phone just to call and text people, browse the web and take pictures. I will not recommend buying a Pixel and putting GOS on it, if they don’t specifically ask for a high security device.

    If they are in the market for a new phone, I will recommend phones that are maintained for a long time and have a good active open source AOSP port community around them. For example the Fairphone with /e/ or Lineage with MicroG. Somewhere where people aren’t funneled towards google services. Since privacy is a bigger issue for most people than security.


  • GOS by all its strenghts, is following the paths treat by Google and Apple on defining what a smartphone has to be and how its security model has to look like, where only the OS distributor has full privileges, and you are just allowed to use it.

    If you have the same requirements for your system as the people who designed these phones assumes you have, then GOS is great for you.

    But if you want to tinker and customize, like we can with Linux systems, then Android and especially locked down systems like GOS aren’t for you.

    I am using GOS myself, because it is good, but I also have a separate device of tinkering.


  • The post was about someone losing root access via an auto-update which they disabled because it might remove their root access.

    Your post was about GrapheneOS. If you rooted it, for whatever reason (maybe you need it to have privileged access to the apps on the hardware that you own), you will lose root access when you update it.

    How does that not make sense?

    I would rather think your post doesn’t make so much sense, because GOS doesn’t solve the root access issue when auto-updating, but it might honor the disablement of updates, I guess.

    I am using GOS as well, but I wouldn’t suggest it to someone needing root access for whatever reason.