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I personally think of AI as a tool, what matters is how you use it. I like to think of it like a hammer. You could use a hammer to build a house, or you could smash someone’s skull in with it. But no one’s putting the hammer in jail.
Now see, I like the idea of AI.
What I don’t like are the implications, and the current reality of AI.
I see businesses embracing AI without fully understanding the limits. Stopping the hiring juniors developers, often firing large numbers of seniors because they think AI, a group of cheap post grad vibe programmers and a handful of seasoned seniors will equal the workforce they got rid of when AI, while very good is not ready to sustain this. It is destroying the career progression for the industry and even if/when they realise it was a mistake, it might already have devastated the industry by then.
I see the large tech companies tearing through the web illegally sucking up anything they can access to pull into their ever more costly models with zero regard to the effects on the economy, the cost to the servers they are hitting, or the environment from the huge power draw creating these models requires.
It’s a nice idea, but private business cannot be trusted to do this right, we’re seeing how to do it wrong, live before our eyes.
And the whole AI industry is holding up the stock market, while AI has historically always ran the hype cycle and crashed into an AI winter. Stock markets do crash after billions pumped into a sector suddenly turn out to be not worth as much. Almost none of these AI companies run a profit and don’t have any prospect of becoming profitable. It’s when everybody starts yelling that this time it’s different that things really become dangerous.
I 100% agree with you
Distributed platform owned by no one founded by people who support individual control of data and content access
Majority of users are proponents of owning what one makes and supporting those who create art and entertainment
AI industry shits on above comments by harvesting private data and creative work without consent or compensation, along with being a money, energy, and attention tar pit
Buddy, do you know what you’re here for?
EDIT: removed bot accusation, forgot to check user history
Or are you yet another bot lost in the shuffle?
Yes, good job, anybody with opinions you don’t like is a bot.
It’s not like this was even a pro-AI post rather than just pointing out that even the most facile “ai bad, applause please” stuff will get massively upvoted
Yes, good job, anybody with opinions you don’t like is a bot.
I fucking knew it!
Yeah, I guess that was a bit too far, posted before I checked the user history or really gave it time to sit in my head.
Still, this kind of meme is usually used to imply that the comment is just a trend rather than a legitimate statement.
Maybe there’s some truth to it then. Have you considered that possibility?
Why would you lend and credence to the weakest appeal to the masses presented on the site?
HaVe YoU ConSiDeReD thE PoSSiBiLiTY that I’m not pro-AI and I understand the downsides, and can still point out that people flock like lemmings (*badum tss*) to any “AI bad” post regardless of whether it’s actually good or not?
Why would a post need to be good? It just needs a good point. Like this post is good enough, even if I don’t agree that we have enough facile ai = posts.
Depends on the community, but for most of them pointing out ways that ai is bad is probably relevant, welcome, and typical.
Apple = bad is also an instant karma farm 😁
I prefer the fine vintage of a M$ = bad post, myself.
Or perhaps even a spicy little Ubuntu = bad post.
No but see we need machibes to do all the art for us, and averaging machibes to tell us wjat is and isnt true!
There are valid reasons for disliking AI (rather, how it’s being used) and I’ll upvote when a relevant, informed argument is made against it. Otherwise I’ll mentally filter out the low-effort comments that just say “fuck AI” with dozens of upvotes.
+1
How people dare not like the automatic bullshit machine pushed down their troat…
Seriously, genrative AI acomplishment are :
- Making mass spam easier
- Burning the planet
- Making people lose their job and not even being a decent solution
- Make all search engine and information sources worse
- Creating an economic bubble that will fuckup the economy even harder
- Easing mass surveillance and weakening privacy everywhere
One could have said many of the same thigs about a lot of new technologies.
The Internet, Nuclear, Rockets, Airplanes etc.
Any new disruptive technology comes with drawbacks and can be used for evil.
But that doesn’t mean it’s all bad, or that it doesn’t have its uses.
Absolutely brain dead to compare the probability engine “AI” with no fundamental use beyond marketed value with a wide variety of truly useful innovations that did not involve marketing in their design.
Give me one real world use that is worth the downside.
As dev I can already tell you it’s not coding or around code. Project get spamed with low quality nonsensical bug repport, ai generated code rarely work and doesn’t integrate well ( on top on pushing all the work on the reviewer wich is already the hardest part of coding ) and ai written documentation is ridled with errors and is not legible.
And even if ai was remotly good at something it still the equivalent of a microwave trying to replace the entire restaurant kitchen.
Yes. AI can be used for spam, job cuts, and creepy surveillance, no argument there, but pretending it’s nothing more than a corporate scam machine is just lazy cynicism. This same “automatic BS” is helping discover life-saving drugs, diagnosing cancers earlier than some doctors, giving deaf people real-time conversations through instant transcription, translating entire languages on the fly, mapping wildfire and flood zones so first responders know exactly where to go, accelerating scientific breakthroughs from climate modeling to space exploration, and cutting out the kind of tedious grunt work that wastes millions of human hours a day. The problem isn’t that AI exists, it’s that a lot of powerful people use it selfishly and irresponsibly. Blaming the tech instead of demanding better governance is like blaming the printing press for bad propaganda.
You’d also get a ton of upvotes for saying “Trump bad”, but you wouldn’t be wrong. Shit is just shit.
He’s mane the World wake up to the fact that they can’t trust the US, so that can be seen as good?
AI isn’t that black and white, just like any big technology it can be used for good or bad.
Just like Airplanes
Good lord stop comparing LLMs to airplanes in your replies. This is why you think “AI bad” is an unserious statement.
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An AI could be demonstrably 30 times more accurate than a human in diagnosing a cancer on a scan Lemmy would still shit on it because it’s an AI :D.
On Reddit I knew that the subject of gun control was not allowed to be talked about. Now I embraced Lemmy and I can’t talk no matter what about AI. It’s just a taboo subject. Apparently some people want to reject the tech entirely and think it will somehow just magically stay out of their lives. A very naive dream.
So yeah Lemmy. Refuse the conversation, look away, I’m sure it will be fine.
Thats because platforms like Lemmy and Reddit utilize the bandwagon effect. The upvote/downvote system is inherently flawed because there is no accountability as to why one votes the way they do.
In this particular case people are just ignorant as to how these new technologies function for example they continue to call them AI when they’re not AI they’re llms… They have no clue how the technology functions or how it should function and simply go by whatever they read on their feed which on lemmy as you know is nothing good.
In this particular case people are just ignorant as to how these new technologies function for example they continue to call them AI when they’re not AI they’re llms
You’re my people 👏
An AI could be demonstrably 30 times more accurate than a human in diagnosing a cancer on a scan Lemmy would still shit on it because it’s an IA
I think this is an exaggeration.
Legitimately useful applications, like in the medical field, are actually brought up as examples of the “right kind” of use case for this technology.
Over and over again.
It’s kind annoying, because both the haters of commercial LLM in All The Things and defenders of the same will bring up these exact same use cases as examples of good ai use.
May I ask for a link ? Never saw that in the communities I consult. Never. Or at least not above 5 downvotes.
I’ll keep an eye out but I don’t have votes visible, so can only really tell sentiment from comments.
Aside, but I highly recommend hiding vote counts. They’re even more pointless here than they were on redit. They’re meaningless noise on the frontend.
Not all that glitters is gold. 🤷
Remember when the internet was treated like AI when it first dropped? People up in arms about internets influence on young people/kids.
This all seems really familiar.
Honestly low-key technophobia has always been a major sentiment in otherwise tech-focused parts of the internet and it has always fascinated me.
The new thing about this new technology is that it’s taking our jobs away without creating any new ones. I fear the day some stupid higher up decides that a chatbot can do a better job than me.
Nobody is going to libraries anymore, The internet is killing books and jobs 🤬
I mean they were right about the internet. The corporations turned most of it into a cluster of competing megamalls that make people anxious while selling them things.
Never mind that even just open a port 443 anywhere in the world will open you up to roving bands of OC scrapers, which feed the next evolution of corp power.
It’s not like a bunch of basement nerds made LLMs and now corps are trying to muscle in (like with the internet). This new technology is theirs, from its R&D to now its aggressive rollout across all sectors of the Internet they control.
I don’t have much hope for the commercial AI or LLM services that are available to most consumers. I think they’re going to enshittify so bad that we’re going to need a new word for it.
It’s a response to the overwhelming FOMO “ngmi” shilling on every other platform.
Where are you seeing more than 200 upvotes on any post?
The front page?
Does this count? https://sopuli.xyz/post/1138547
ah, mid 2023, the honeymoon times
WTF is “AI”? You mean LLM?
Either Al Capone or Weird Al.
