Peak Chevy truck grill
That’s fake. There’s way too much bed space.
The smaller one has a bigger bed 🤦
Lol and easier to load
My biggest gripe with modern trucks really. Have fun putting that new refrigerator you needed in there and then getting it out once you’re home, and God forbid you put a toolbox behind the cab, you’re climbing into that bed to get every little thing you didn’t think you’d need because you can’t just get it by reaching over the side.
Modern trucks are so fucking ridiculous Ford added a fold out stepladder to the tailgate on their trucks.
Bigger one also has 5 seats.
If you need 5 seats get a car.
the humble minibus
Pictured: a pickup truck in front of a cope wagon.
At my job, I load full pallets of concrete, drywall, plywood, etc, into customer trucks all day every day.
The bigger the truck, the more likely the customer is going to be a pain in the ass. Wishy washy about how much load they can carry, and crying up a storm if you touch the tailgate.
Smaller truck? Load up and go, They’ll probably be back for more in a few hours too.
I like to tell people that if their truck can’t handle the load, then they paid too much for the truck.
Also also, bigger trucks tend to be parked like douchbaggs more often than smaller trucks, just blocking the way for everyone.
I like to tell people that if their truck can’t handle the load, then they paid too much for the truck.
“If your bullet is too small for the deer, you paid too much for the gun.”
“Say less, I should hunt squirrel and rabbit with a .30-.30.”
“If you can’t take all the groceries inside in one trip, you paid too much for the groceries.”
“Alright well yeah but that’s just because eggs cost $100. Two trips is ok.”
the one on the right
is also the one on the left… 😂
the text is actually from a pre-existing post
My condo building can’t even feet these fuckers in our parking spots. We’ve had to ban certain residents from parking here because of those trucks
Same bed size, probably same payload capacity, and you can actually grab something out of the bed on the old truck without needing a stepladder. Really the only thing that the new truck does better is towing, simply due to added engine power and bigger breaks.
Every time this gets posted I can’t help but think what would happen if you loaded up the little guy with comparable weights. I get it, full sized pickups aren’t for everyone but come on, they aren’t even close in payload capacity unless you’re hauling packing peanuts. Check it out.
Just the beds here. Not getting into the motor, transmission, suspension, etc.
A modern Toyota Tacoma long bed. Bed Length: 73.5 inches Width at Tailgate: 53 inches Depth: 20.2 inches Max Towing Capacity: 6500lbs
GMC 2500 HD Denali (my pickup) Bed Length: 82.5 inches Width at Tailgate: 71.4 inches Depth: 22.4 inches Max Towing Capacity: 15,000 lbs
With a full sized pickup you can stack a pallet of lumber flat. Lumber is 8ft standard length. Whole sheets of plywood and drywall are 4ft x 8ft. A 12’ roll of carpet sits on a roof rack without overhanging the front or back. There is just no comparing the two, they are made for completely different purposes.
My point is the full sized pickups have a place. I used to install carpet and hard floors. Now I tow an RV and need the higher clearance for the locations I visit. For little miss molly home maker or office job joe, full sized pickups are a ridiculous choice but don’t judge if you don’t know. Camping in remote locations isn’t only for the affluent. Not everyone can afford a commuter vehicle in addition to their fun vehicle. They have to make a choice and drive what they own.
They are bloated for no reason is my problem with them. I have an older chevy 3/4 ton for hauling our camper, boat, and the shit for renovating our fixer upper. The capability of a modern 3/4 ton is like 50% more at most, yet it’s like 3 feet taller for no reason. I can still haul 3k+ lbs and tow 12k, but I can still see over the hood with very little issue.
A modern half ton is bigger than my 2001 3/4 ton truck. The bloat is real.
The bigger truck can move the weight, sure, but that aluminum bed isn’t going to survive very long. The old design is easier to load and will last longer. And, yes, has more room for the bulkier stuff.
This means you could probably call the Slate the retro pug of trucks.
I really don’t understand the appeal of cars of that size…
I honestly can’t help but laugh at these trucks…
Especially when you see the 5’6 45 year old struggling to climb back in at a gas station after leaving his AC office drone job.
They really think their big truck makes them a big man.
All it does is scream to everyone else that you’re insecure in your own masculinity and spent ~80k and a shit ton of gas money to try and compensate.
What gets me is that they are always fucking spotless. My '09 Ranger is all dirty, scratched up, with various straps and ropes in the bed.
God forbid they use their truck like a truck.
my fucking e-bike is less pristine than these things
My dad would always use the profits from growing tobacco on a new truck every other year…
One year he bought a new truck while we were actively putting the crop in a barn.
Truck was less than 48 hrs old and he was trying to pull a fully loaded wagon across a creek to get to a barn.
With brand new wet tires, he couldn’t get out of the creek. So at like 11 years old I got to watch him put a brand new truck sideways into a tree because he was too proud to unhook and let someone else pull the wagon thru the creek. But he still got it in the barn.
He wasn’t even that pissed, because the only reason to buy a truck, was to use it for actual truck shit.
BRO! I worked for a paving company years back and the business manager had this raised modified to all hell f350 (trash). He’d get it washed every week, rarely used it for actual work other than dragging a trailer and it CONSTANTLY broke down. Damn thing was impossible to load anything but buckets cuz the bed was as high as my friggin nipples (lol).
Bonus Question: Guess how tall he was
I recently lost my '05 f150 that I used for work to frame rot, so I got a '17. I’ve put two holes in the bed, through the bed liner, and I haven’t even been treating it that bad. It’s almost as though Ford doesn’t want you to use it for work harder than carrying your yeti between kids baseball games.
At some point they changed the bed from being made out of steel to aluminum, and you can really tell.
I think that was in 2014, yeah. I get it honestly, they’re much lighter and they won’t rust. But the bed should always be steel in my opinion.
I think the problem is they try to make it the same thickness as the sheet metal from the steel bed. If they made it 1/4" thick like the aluminum side step plates on a Bobcat it wouldn’t be a problem and it’d still probably be lighter.
Honestly it’s pretty embarrassing for 6’1 55 year old too.
Western masculinity can be so fragile that some think consumerism is the only out of it.
Basically if you’re using a pickup as a commuter vehicle…you probably don’t make good life choices.
Oh for sure.
I played sports in college way back in the day, and still stay up with a lot of my old teammates. Most of us are huge, but I still give shit to every one of them that have giant trucks.
But it’s still funnier when the driver of a giant truck struggles to get in/out of it and can barely see over their own steering wheel. At a certain height interior space does become a factor, but as long as you “gangster lean” you can still fit in a normal vehicle.
But I grew up on an actual farm, I’ve been making fun of oversized trucks since my cousin jacked his truck up so high it couldn’t pull a wagon anymore. And that was back when the small truck in OPs post was sold new.
Basically if you’re using a pickup as a commuter vehicle…you probably don’t make good life choices.
That is false for nearly everyone. Unless you are driving double the miles of an average person, the costs of a second car that is practical for 99% of your needs and a truck for that last 1% is higher than the costs of just driving the truck for everything. You have to make payments and taxes on the truck even when it sits in the driveway. You might get a small insurance discount for a truck you rarely drive, but your insurance on two vehicles is higher than just one.
People say “just rent a truck”, but every time I look into that I discover rental trucks come with a lot of restrictions such that you can’t use them as a truck (I expect a truck used as a truck to get paint scratches). And the cost is so high that it won’t take many rentals to making having a truck the cheaper option (getting right of the car in exchange).
If you use your truck as a truck often that’s fair. My ire is more directed at those that fall into the categories below (and I know several people that do, some of whom are upper middle class and seven figure salary folk who just want the appearance of ruggedness).
According to Edwards’ data, 75 percent of truck owners use their truck for towing one time a year or less (meaning, never). Nearly 70 percent of truck owners go off-road one time a year or less. And a full 35 percent of truck owners use their truck for hauling—putting something in the bed, its ostensible raison d’être—once a year or less.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume
You will have a hard time finding a truck you can use off road the one time per year that you need to if you don’t own it. Just once per year, but you have to own the truck as most rental trucks will not allow going offroad. Likewise for towing, you will have a hard time finding a truck you can tow with (uhaul will only let you tow their trailers).
Even if you do find a rental truck you can use as truck for that one time of the year, it is common for rental trucks to already rented when you need them and so you can’t get it.
So even if your need is once per year, owning your own truck that you use for non-truck tasks as well is realistically your best option.
You have to make payments and taxes on the truck even when it sits in the driveway.
TIL I have to make payments on my fully-depreciated 30-year-old truck.
People say “just rent a truck”, but every time I look into that I discover rental trucks come with a lot of restrictions such that you can’t use them as a truck (I expect a truck used as a truck to get paint scratches).
“Just rent a truck” means “rent a work truck from Home Depot or U-Haul or something,” not “rent a pavement princess from a car rental place.”
God I miss small trucks. So much. So so much.
Right? All it needs to do is carry a stack of 4x8 plywood and a bunch of 2x4s, or the entire contents of a two-room apartment – something a 1980’s “mini” pickup like the Ford Ranger or Chevy S10 could easily handle.
Describing one of these as “on the right” is a wild choice.
I don’t think I’d call that progress.
It’s evolving, but backwards
Evolution doesn’t have a direction. Being big is helping these trucks breed faster, so they’re becoming more prevalent.
I think in this context it’s talking about “industry progress” which just means “whatever path the industry has taken”
Every time I see a complaint about truck sizes, I make it a point to share this video explaining how it’s actually the EPA’s fault trucks have gotten so big.
how it’s actually the EPA’s fault trucks have gotten so big.
🤨
No, the corporation’s horrible behaviour is the fault of the regulators & regulations.
Plus those corporations are the ones lobbying for those regulations.
It may not be only the EPA’s fault, but an unintended consequences of the CAFE standards and how they change over time is a perverse incentive to increase wheelbase and track, lowering the fuel efficiency instead of raising it.
If you haven’t yet, watch the video. It does a good job explaining why you can’t make the Chevy S10 we used to see all over the place in the 90s without a big penalty that would make it too expensive.
unintended consequences of the CAFE standards and how they change over time is a perverse incentive to increase wheelbase and track, lowering the fuel efficiency instead of raising it.
so what? that doesn’t make the shitty trucks, the car companies do. “It incentivises it” fucking whatever, electric car subsidies and etc also do that , and they’re still making combustion cars.
They make things people will buy. No one is buying an S10 that costs 20% more after penalties because it can’t be as fuel efficient as a Camry.
Edit: I’ll stipulate that the auto manufacturers are, and always have been, run by a bunch of fuckers. Fuckers that have worked against public transit, fuel efficiency standards, and emissions standards. No one is arguing with you about that. But they don’t do it for fun. They’re not supervillains that want to ruin the environment. They’re not aliens trying to terra form the planet. They do it for money. If there is no profit in small pickups, they won’t make them. And if the only choice for people that want/need a pickup is a giant truck, that’s what they’ll get. These standards as written take away the option of small pickups.
But they don’t do it for fun. They’re not supervillains that want to ruin the environment. They’re not aliens trying to terra form the planet.
but it’s what they’re doing, so fuck them. They buy and sell politicians for worse things, and they are responsible for their own fucking actions. They manipulate the governmental organizations for dumping waste wherever they fucking want, I think they can do it to make better vehicles.
And you’re advocating for these pricks.
Jesus dude, I know the average person’s reading comprehension is bad, but you really take the cake.
I’m not advocating for auto manufacturers, I’m advocating for updating the CAFE standards that unintentionally incentivize large pickups. They already make the things and sell them down in Mexico, they’re very popular. The reason US customers can’t buy them is the EPA.
But I think you know all that. You’re just uninterested in learning the causes so effective adjustments can be made. You just want to impotently piss and moan to absolutely zero effect.
Trucks, cars, all of it. I praise Mazda for keeping the Miata/MX-5 small when almost nobody else has.
if only they didn’t give it headlights that blind people
nearly drove into one last night because it was coming up a small hill in front of me in my neighbourhood (on a curve) and I drifted left as I slowed down to ensure I didn’t hit the pedestrians to my right. couldn’t see a fucking thing because of its ‘lowbeams’
People don’t properly aim the headlights anymore.
I feel this with so many new cars. Particularly when driving my car instead of my wife’s which is pretty short.
I finally bought some polarized driving glasses to cut down in some of the glare. They’re like sunglasses but bright yellow. They… Help slightly. I’m sure there are some better than the cheap pair I got, though.
Polarization is to cut out sunlight. Headlights do not produce polarized light.
… Neither does the sun. Polarization cuts off all the waves that DO NOT ALIGN with the filter. It reduces the amount of light going to your eye.
Ok the sun doesn’t produce polarized light, but the atmosphere polarizes it. So sunlight is polarized. All sunglasses reduce the amount of light going into your eye…that’s the point of sunglasses.
The light does not need to be polarized for a polarizing lens to have an effect. Polarized sunglasses eliminate glare, unlike their non polarized cousins. This is why they’re prized by fishermen-they can see into the water. Works for windshields too.
It really seems like you don’t understand how this works.
