Really hard to tell what actually happened, but it seems like the stunt actor had delayed remorse over a scene she acted willingly or realized that protocol wasn’t strictly followed and thought a lawsuit would net her some quick settlement money.
Definitely has NOTHING to do with Costner himself, just using his picture to get clicks.
I recant the last sentence, misread that Costner was a Producer and that someone else had directed that scene.
It explicitly names Costner as the director who didn’t comply with contractual obligations though:
According to her complaint, LaBella was not warned that a new male actor would mount her, pin her down and “violently” rake up her skirt. LaBella claims that Costner told her to “lay down” before he directed the male actor “to repeatedly perform a violent simulated rape” on her while Costner “experimented with different takes of the rape action”.
LaBella argues that the scene violated contractual protocols negotiated by the performers’ union Sag-Aftra, which stipulates that performers be given 48 hours notice and consent to any scenes involving nudity of simulated sex. She also claims that the film’s intimacy coordinator was not present, as mandated under Hunt’s contract, which applied to LaBella as her stand-in.
In an amendment filed in June, Celeste Chaney, an intimacy coordinator for the film, supported LaBella’s account, and called the incident an “unscheduled, unplanned violent rape scene” that “was unexpectedly sprung on the actors and stunt professionals”. Chaney added that LaBella “did not consent to the action that was directed once she was in place”; and “she did not have the appropriate modesty garments to ensure adequate coverage, safety, or protection”.
You’re right, Costner actually directed that scene, I was thinking about the previously filmed scene which involved someone else.
Still hard to swallow the timing of everything. But if Costner didn’t follow all the rules, regardless of how everyone feels, he needs to admit that and make changes.
Still hard to swallow the timing of everything. But if Costner didn’t follow all the rules, regardless of how everyone feels, he needs to admit that and make changes.
This still sounds like victim-blaming though. Her career could be permanently damaged because she didn’t just go along quietly even though is sure seems like the contract was broken. She’s not the one who did anything wrong in this circumstance, and it’s completely understandable why she would wait until the project wrapped before speaking up.
She even has a corroborating witness: the intimacy coordinator. I believe her.
Yeah, the “upbeat text” reads like a professional response after completing a job from someone who would like to work again in film.
Also, presumably the actor who walked off when a second rape scene was sprung on her can testify that she walked off rather than do the surprise scene.
This still sounds like victim-blaming though. Her career could be permanently damaged because she didn’t just go along quietly
So now you’re taking allegations as fact.
MeToo means every claim should be taken seriously and properly investigated. It does not mean to blindly accept whatever someone says until proven otherwise.
it’s completely understandable why she would wait until the project wrapped before speaking up.
It’s one thing to stay quiet until you feel safe to come forward, completely understandable, it’s another thing to go out of your way to say that ‘Everything was hunky dory and I feel really thankful to everyone.’ only to turn around and say ‘Nope, I lied, I felt raped.’
Even if everything she claims is true, that alone is probably going to be what sinks her lawsuit.
She even has a corroborating witness: the intimacy coordinator. I believe her.
If you’re going to take what she says at face value, you have to do the same for everyone else. Wherein she sent a letter of thanks saying she had a great time and multiple crew members are corroborating what Costner said.
Honestly, I think the truth is going to be very boring. They didn’t do everything by the book and no one noticed or cared until the actor got outside advice to make it a legal issue and to add a sexual assault rider to what should have been a letter of complaint to the studio just to get media attention and force a settlement.
But that’s not a statement of fact, or my wishes, that’s my personal feeling after reading the article. I know as little as you and everyone else on Lemmy does.
Don’t accuse me or anyone else of victim blaming without actually knowing anything about the situation again. That was wrong of you.
If you’re going to take what she says at face value, you have to do the same for everyone else. Wherein she sent a letter of thanks saying she had a great time and multiple crew members are corroborating what Costner said.
How is sending a letter of thanks to the production company mean that her contract wasn’t breached?
Like I said: she was worried about her career. The intimacy coordinator, whose job it is to know these things says there was a breach of contract.
The director is responsible for their set, and he pushed her to do things she wasn’t comfortable with in breach of her contract. Why would she lie about that? To ruin her career for one big payout? If Costner had stuck to the contract this wouldn’t be an issue.
There’s an inherent power imbalance between a body double and a superstar director. That makes it incumbent upon the director to make sure that the contract is strictly adhered to both for the safety of the actor and his own liability.
It seems like there was a breach of contract. Obviously I was not there, but stipulations like intimacy coordinators are supposed to stop this exact thing from happening. If Costner was the one making decisions about what to film and was aware that this was in breach of the contract then he is at fault. If it’s someone else’s job to know that then they are at fault and costner is just covering his project by saying this isn’t a problem. It’s not the actors job to ensure or enforce the terms of their contracts. This seems to at least tangentially involve him since apparently he’s the one who wanted the improvised scene.
It seems like the only real point of contention is what the scene in question entails. If it is a rape scene I don’t see how Costner is in the right. Unless the scene does not contain sexual violence or any intimate touching in general, then it seems like they were right to bring the case.
Really hard to tell what actually happened, but it seems like the stunt actor had delayed remorse over a scene she acted willingly or realized that protocol wasn’t strictly followed and thought a lawsuit would net her some quick settlement money.
Definitely has NOTHING to do with Costner himself, just using his picture to get clicks.I recant the last sentence, misread that Costner was a Producer and that someone else had directed that scene.
It explicitly names Costner as the director who didn’t comply with contractual obligations though:
You’re right, Costner actually directed that scene, I was thinking about the previously filmed scene which involved someone else.
Still hard to swallow the timing of everything. But if Costner didn’t follow all the rules, regardless of how everyone feels, he needs to admit that and make changes.
This still sounds like victim-blaming though. Her career could be permanently damaged because she didn’t just go along quietly even though is sure seems like the contract was broken. She’s not the one who did anything wrong in this circumstance, and it’s completely understandable why she would wait until the project wrapped before speaking up.
She even has a corroborating witness: the intimacy coordinator. I believe her.
Yeah, the “upbeat text” reads like a professional response after completing a job from someone who would like to work again in film.
Also, presumably the actor who walked off when a second rape scene was sprung on her can testify that she walked off rather than do the surprise scene.
So now you’re taking allegations as fact.
MeToo means every claim should be taken seriously and properly investigated. It does not mean to blindly accept whatever someone says until proven otherwise.
It’s one thing to stay quiet until you feel safe to come forward, completely understandable, it’s another thing to go out of your way to say that ‘Everything was hunky dory and I feel really thankful to everyone.’ only to turn around and say ‘Nope, I lied, I felt raped.’
Even if everything she claims is true, that alone is probably going to be what sinks her lawsuit.
If you’re going to take what she says at face value, you have to do the same for everyone else. Wherein she sent a letter of thanks saying she had a great time and multiple crew members are corroborating what Costner said.
Honestly, I think the truth is going to be very boring. They didn’t do everything by the book and no one noticed or cared until the actor got outside advice to make it a legal issue and to add a sexual assault rider to what should have been a letter of complaint to the studio just to get media attention and force a settlement.
But that’s not a statement of fact, or my wishes, that’s my personal feeling after reading the article. I know as little as you and everyone else on Lemmy does.
Don’t accuse me or anyone else of victim blaming without actually knowing anything about the situation again. That was wrong of you.
How is sending a letter of thanks to the production company mean that her contract wasn’t breached?
Like I said: she was worried about her career. The intimacy coordinator, whose job it is to know these things says there was a breach of contract.
The director is responsible for their set, and he pushed her to do things she wasn’t comfortable with in breach of her contract. Why would she lie about that? To ruin her career for one big payout? If Costner had stuck to the contract this wouldn’t be an issue.
There’s an inherent power imbalance between a body double and a superstar director. That makes it incumbent upon the director to make sure that the contract is strictly adhered to both for the safety of the actor and his own liability.
It seems like there was a breach of contract. Obviously I was not there, but stipulations like intimacy coordinators are supposed to stop this exact thing from happening. If Costner was the one making decisions about what to film and was aware that this was in breach of the contract then he is at fault. If it’s someone else’s job to know that then they are at fault and costner is just covering his project by saying this isn’t a problem. It’s not the actors job to ensure or enforce the terms of their contracts. This seems to at least tangentially involve him since apparently he’s the one who wanted the improvised scene.
It seems like the only real point of contention is what the scene in question entails. If it is a rape scene I don’t see how Costner is in the right. Unless the scene does not contain sexual violence or any intimate touching in general, then it seems like they were right to bring the case.
He’s the director and producer. He’s absolutely expected to know what is required for scenes like the one described.
Overall I agree with your comment, just adding what I know about the film industry for context.