Somewhere out there someone is mad that Taylor Swift got engaged and I’m mad that she has probably produced orders of magnitude more pollution in her lifetime than I possibly could in mine. We are not the same
She’s hardly the problem, I rather blame people like bezos for the pollution not a singer
i mean. she’s still a billionaire. she’s not a top of the order first priority billionaire, but we shouldn’t exclude her from vilification, either
Doesn’t she pay the people working on her tours really well or was that inaccurate
No one becomes a billionaire accidentally. Even if she pays people top dollar, she can charge less at the gate, she could pay her people bonuses on top of their salary. She could donate half of her income to homeless shelters in whatever city she’s touring in.
She’s a billionaire because she chooses to be.
There are no morally virtuous billionaires.
like i said, she’s far from the worst. but she is also possibly the most powerful and influential artist today. she could use the comforts and privileges she’s leveraged herself into to reshape the industry in some substantial ways. her concerts are commanding record setting ticket places. she could be challenging ticketmaster/livenation in ways that no other artist can. she could be rewriting how a topring artist of her stature gets from venue to venue. she could challenging the trust based relationship of the distributors to open up doors for young artists.
paying her workers what they are worth is more than many billionaires do, but it’s still the minimum, not the limit of her power
Anyone who owns a private jet, anyone, is a MASSIVELY larger problem than the average human, and then corporations are an order of magnitude larger than regular private jet owners
Isn’t the pollution from millions of people travelling to her concerts bigger than from the single plane? Who is responsible for that?
If she is, then that’s the bigger issue than the plane. If the concert goers are, then they also share responsibility for the plane’s pollution.
You’ve added a perfectly reasonable leisure activity, traveling for entertainment, and then put it next to ‘person literally takes a bus into the atmosphere for a few hours so they can get somewhere faster’. In what way is her mode of travel the burden of the concert-goers?
Individual choices make a difference, and I’m not begrudging someone for driving an hour and a half to the nearest Zoo, so I’ve got no problem with people in the US taking the only real means of transit available to them. Bands/groups can take tour busses, trains. They can fly to another country if needed. But land travel is still more economically and environmentally friendly than air travel. If they carpooled, because it’s a concert far enough away, even better.
My point is that a concert only exists due to concert goers paying for it, supporting it, and coming to it. It doesn’t seem unreasonable to me that the total environmental impact of the concert can then by divided by all the people who attended it, including everyone carrying their small share of responsibility that the singer travelled to sing for them.
I absolutely agree it’s mainly her responsibility for the choice of the mode of transport, but I do think everyone who buys a ticket is “complicit”, as everyone knows that’s how she does it and are still happy to support it. And I don’t blame any individual person, because for any individual person the share of responsibility is very small.
But that just feels like calling out people who buy jeans in the western world. Yes, I wear my jeans for years, patching them when possible. But a factory in Indonesia dyed these jeans indigo with child workers who take that poisoning home with them.
There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism, or so they say, so why not subtract the 2 from both sides and pull it entirely out of the equation?
I’m not afraid. Let them try. I lived under this oppressing close-minded conservative islamic Turkish government for 10 years while being gay. They are no match for my removedry.
Isn’t it like most of the population afraid of being killed by the government?
One part is legitimately afraid, given what’s happening. But isn’t the fear of having the government come in and take your guns, invade your cities and force people to be like they want, a part of what made the other part vote for exactly this?
