I’m not saying anything whatsoever would warrant this, but were the kids at least, like, throwing eggs? Knocking the mailbox over? To fire a weapon at someone for ringing your bell is just so unhinged that how could he even make it that far?
Simple really. Guns are treated like kids toys in the good ol’ USA, and “every single mentally deranged psychopath absolutely HAS to be allowed to own one, 'cause that’s the only way to stop fascism” - The National Rifle Association 1871-present
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I don’t care if the kid threw a brick through my window, murdering a child is completely unforgivable and there is zero justification for it.
Imo, the only time shooting someone is even remotely justified is in the defense of someone’s life or as a very last resort when there are no other options.
Yes, of course. I’m certainly glad I never got shot for worse shit, believe me. But shooting someone for ringing your doorbell is about 300 levels up. At least I could imagine getting a warning shot at the sky for smashing a window.
And I’m not implying these kids must have done anything other than ring bells and go laugh as someone opens the door to no one. Kids do both.
He was a kid. Running away.
I can’t imagine this happening in the Netherlands… Wtf…
It absolutely does happen here. Like this one for example: guy chases young girl with an axe after messing with his doorbell.
https://nos.nl/artikel/2438126-man-wordt-boos-om-belletje-trekken-en-verwondt-man-met-bijl
Don’t mess with the wrong people. You never know what’s going to push them over the edge.
Ja, Limburg. Vandaar. ;)
Edit: the axeguy was stopped by visitors of a local bar while pursuing the little girl. Noone got seriously injured and the unhinged moron was left in police custody.
Now, in the US these kind of stories have a different ending. In the US this guy would’ve shot the girl and rampaged through that bar.
That girl would have 100% been shot and killed if this happened in America.
Well, shit…
…or really anywhere in the civilised world
Had someone fire a gun at myself and 2 friends for doing this when we were teenagers. No vandalism, no destruction, just knocking on the door (friend happened to bang particularly fast and hard while screaming “Satan Loves You”) and hightailing it. I also live in the south, so guns a-blazin’, I guess.
I’ve also been threatened with a gun and other acts of violence for dressing in all black and not believing in some bullshit god. Police have also been called on me for sitting in front of the mall in my trenchcoat while waiting on my ride as a teen. And I’ve had a cop train a gun on me while my friends and I were goofin’ around in their backyard.
Oh but gun control laws are not needed are they America? But an old irrelevant document from 150 years ago says otherwise so clearly the matter is closed.
But they need them for when the fascist government takes over! Oh, right, all the 2A people are on that side…
Actually, the document doesn’t really say that, it’s just that we love murdering children so much, that we pretend that is what it says.
Try 234 years for 2nd Amendment…
Even the “old west” had gun control.
When little kids can’t even play simple pranks in your country without being shot, your country has serious issues that desperately need addressing (but won’t because the administration is so corrupt)
There are federal, state, town, and county layers of administration. They’re all corrupt. But not the parents.
Ooooo boy, prison loves them a child killer.
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Seriously. I’ll go to bed and leave the door unlocked, go for a run and leave it open so I don’t have to take keys.
Walk home through sketchy areas in the early hours of the morning and live in Manchester a pretty large city.
Twice in 42 years have I had someone try and attack me for no reason. Never had someone break into my house. Heck I went to work one day and left the keys on the lock outside and still nothing.
I’m very very glad I grew up in basically a 90’s teen drama town, where most people probably didn’t even own hunting rifles, or one newer than 100 years old. I mean, I’m not glad for other reasons, but right now I am.
Black?
Hispanic judging from the name.
Cop speak is always so frustratingly literal. They refer to the victim as “the male”. He’s 11. call him a kid and have some empathy
Too many nutjob AmeriKans with guns. If US authorities used the same firearm laws in Europe, over half of the potential gun owners would fail.
They have guns and the death penalty but somehow, they can’t put together that one leads to the other. It’s like the only thing that matters over there is the profit from selling the equipment.
No. The sensational back and forth on the “will they / won’t they” every time something happens drives hella clicks.
Even if he had stood his ground he wouldn’t be let off
Even in the 2000s people would call the cops saying there was a robbery when they got dinged. We were like fucken 11 and a police helicopter came overhead it was fucken insane.
There’s always someone way crazier than you think, right in your own neighbourhood. And you never know what tiny thing will push them over the edge to do something like that.
So yeah, parents really need to teach their kids not to do annoying things like that. It can get them seriously hurt - or worse - messing with the wrong people. Us adults know that, children need to be taught that.
I know what you are saying, and i agree, except i don’t think the root of the problem is addressed. Those crazy people shouldn’t have access to guns.
Clearly this individual shouldn’t have access to them. We don’t know the guy’s history, but there certainly have been cases where people had known mental issues and still retained access to guns. That’s definitely a particularly scary thought.
Those few and rare cases… Looks at daily scrolling list of school shootings… So very rare.
Ah yes, superb firearm ownership; shooting at kids running away from you.
On NextDoor somebody posted a link to this story and the comments were all “see? Kids shouldn’t be ringing doorbells and running away like this.” Maybe the real lesson is “don’t shoot kids in the fucking back”?
The only way to stop a bad kid from ringing doorbells is a good guy with a gun.
That kid was no angel.
I’m sure I missed some right-wing thought-stopping platitudes, I may be back later with more wisdom.
You forgot: The death penalty will deter others
Maybe we shouldn’t be talking about this right after it happened??!?! Give the dead child’s family some time! Now is not the time for gun control arguments it’s the time to come together and support the victims, especially the man who shot the child, nobody thinks of their suffering!
Not going to lie, had me going for a second.
Needs more thoughts and prayers, but still a good 9 out of 10.
But then casually post anonymous racist YouTube comments about how if he was raised better this wouldn’t have happened
Inb4 the cops find weed in their parents house.
“Find”
I’m so extremely pathetic that I feared for my life because of a fleeing child!
The running away part adds a bonus felony in Texas in addition to the reckless discharge and I’m guessing murder II maybe negligent homicide.
