• patatas@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 days ago

    Here’s a direct quote from the PBO on June 5th when asked about the Carney Liberals’ planned tripling of the defense budget and simultaneous tax cuts:

    “To balance or to pay for these types of additional spending there would need to be severe cuts to the public service, significant cuts,” Giroux said.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/public-service/carney-spending-public-service-cuts-pbo

    The Liberals’ platform explicitly talked about capping the size of the public service, not cutting it. It’s frankly ridiculous to pretend they never said this.

    • Arkouda@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      10 days ago

      From your source. Again.

      Currently, the main estimates don’t suggest major cuts to the public service, Giroux said.

      • patatas@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        10 days ago

        Uh huh, and here’s what he meant by that, in case anyone else is inclined to trust your framing of the article:

        Giroux said he expected that the main estimates, which are a breakdown of what the government expects to spend this fiscal year, would be different. The estimates were more in line with the level of spending by the government of former prime minister Justin Trudeau than expected, he said.

        “Given that we were told that it would be a different set of priorities for the government, it’s not reflected in the main estimates,” he said.

        You’re not arguing I’m good faith here, or frankly anywhere else I have seen in this community. What makes you want to defend this government so badly that you’re willing to continually distort reality to do so? See rule 2.

        • patatas@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          9 days ago

          @otter@otter@lemmy.ca the above (removed) reply calls out the comment above it for taking a single sentence out of context in a way that doesn’t just distort its meaning, but actually reverses it.

          That constitutes deliberate misinformation.

          If this community allows misinfo, then please remove the rule against it to avoid confusion. Otherwise, it should not be an issue of “civility” for someone to call out deliberate distortion of facts.

          • Otter@lemmy.caM
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            9 days ago

            Hi, we’re discussing this one with the other admins and someone will get back to you soon. I’ve reapproved the comments in the meantime.

              • Otter@lemmy.caM
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                8 days ago

                Hi patatas,

                We had a chance to discuss this post and what we can do differently in the future. You raised some good points in your communication with us, and I’ve copied it in to our notes for future guidelines / recommended community rules. Thank you for reaching out, we’re keeping the comments approved.

                  • Otter@lemmy.caM
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    4 days ago

                    So that rule was mainly intended for the election season. It was relatively easy during that period for us to check and verify election related information, and there was an increased risk from harmful information being posted right before people went to vote.

                    The initial removal of the rule from the sidebar was a mistake on my part from when I updated the sidebar the other day to add the new communities people made. I edit the sidebar elsewhere and copy it in, and didn’t grab the latest version of the sidebar like I should have.

                    However, since we’re planning to work on the updated guidelines and recommended community rules sometime soon (+ the posts to collect feedback), we might just leave it as is and deal with things in a case by case basic till then. I’m estimating that we will be able to get that done in late August / early fall, based on what our schedules look like.

                    Thank you for checking! I appreciate when users keep an eye on things and give feedback, since it helps us catch issues and improve our processes