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      Yes. If you do it incorrectly then there’s food on the bottom of the plates now and they can’t shuffle it to their preference anymore.

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    When I was a server I hated when people stacked their own plates. First off, I found it performative. Secondly it messed with my system. Thirdly it usually produced a 20lb pile of dishes covered in queso, half eaten burritos, and guacamole that was impossible to carry.

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      bussed tables for years; what are you doing clearing tables as a server?

      I liked it when people stacked their shit up, it shaves a few seconds off me doing it before I dumped it in a tub.

      As far as food issues - well yeah if they’re some kids acting like cretins pouring shit all over that’s a problem but what’s that got fuck all to do with the stack?

      I find your hate performative to be honest.

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      Huh, me mum was a waitress at one point and taught me to stack for politeness, I didn’t realize it was a preference thing. Now I’m not sure what to do.

      I’ll still keep ordering the queso though, that shit’s delicious.

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        offer them the plates so they don’t have to reach or move around the table and help them stack them when they’re there… pause your conversations and ensure they spend as little time sorting your dishes as possible, and then both they can get back to what they’re doing and you can continue your conversations in private

        especially true when there are plates, bowls, and cups of all shapes

        exception being it’s okay to pile cutlery on a single plate because that’s always going on the top and if not it’s easy to tip off all at once to restack

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          But people who put napkins in cups can go to hell, and that includes servers.

          Sincerely,

          Dish

          P.S. Scrape your damn plates servers.

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      Yeah man. I don’t stack anything, not because I don’t want to help, but I don’t want to mess with your system. Waiting isn’t as easy as it seems and I absolutely have no idea how to do it, so I don’t want to interfere. I prefer to sit awkwardly and pretend that me leaning back as much as I can to make more space is equally helpful.

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      Okay, fair enough. How about putting eventual food, that has not been eaten, on the top plate (and in general making sure the plate is not completely dirty)

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      This. Heard the same from a waiter friend a while back. Since then, I do nutsack

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    This comment section is a nice mix of “I’m a waiter, please don’t do this, you’re making my job harder” and “I always do this to make the waiters’ lives easier”

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      Checking in at 23 hours - I count one comment to this effect, but even there the caveat is ‘but only if you do it wrong’

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    My dad gets legitimately angry when I do this. Boomers are a different breed

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      I don’t think it’s an age thing, more of an empathy test. I’ve been a dishwasher, maybe that’s why I tidy up.

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        I’ve owned a restaurant, and once you’ve done that, you’ve been the dishwasher, janitor, toilet plunger, punching bag, robbery victim, etc.

        After all that, you tend to lose that sense that some jobs are below you. You just see it as work that has to be done, and you’re standing there, so it might as well be you, so get it done.

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      Yeah, my boomer uncle told me it was low class after he watched me do it. When I was a waitress at the time. Fuck him and that mentality - I do it to this day and make into 6 figures

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        Impressive. Employ a buncha seasoned techniques ‘n’ tactics during service? Influence by Dr. Cialdini had some, (including one that was essentially dishonest), but one more normal one like this:

        One of the best demonstrations of the Principle of Reciprocity comes from a series of studies conducted in restaurants. So the last time you visited a restaurant, there’s a good chance that the waiter or waitress will have given you a gift. Probably about the same time that they bring your bill. A liqueur, perhaps, or a fortune cookie, or perhaps a simple mint. — So here’s the question. Does the giving of a mint have any influence over how much tip you’re going to leave them? Most people will say no. But that mint can make a surprising difference. In the study, giving diners a single mint at the end of their meal typically increased tips by around 3%. — Interestingly, if the gift is doubled and two mints are provided, tips don’t double. They quadruple—a 14% increase in tips. But perhaps most interesting of all is the fact that if the waiter provides one mint, starts to walk away from the table, but pauses, turns back and says, “For you nice people, here’s an extra mint,” tips go through the roof. A 23% increase, influenced not by what was given, but how it was given. — So the key to using the Principle of Reciprocity is to be the first to give and to ensure that what you give is personalized and unexpected.

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        Too many people see life as a zero-sum game with a one-dimensional ranking. To them, success is defined as the number of people of people you’re better than. Worse, many people go by pass/fail,as in “they’re one of the good ones” (popular with bigots everywhere)

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      My dad gets legitimately angry when I do this

      I think it has to do with “putting the waiters out of their job”. Like, when you do a part of the job for them consistently, the restaurant manager will eventually notice that and realize they can do with a little bit less staff. So they hire fewer waiters, which means potential waiters face a tougher job market.

      And for anybody saying “that little bit of support can’t make the difference between more and less staff”, yes, it can. Consider that a restaurant manager might have already decided to fire a waiter that’s a bit less performant (because they struggle to keep up) but decided to keep them anyways, just in case. Now they see that people do a part of the work, and that might just give them the idea that maybe, they could do with fewer waiters, and there’s that one lazy guy who can’t keep up anyway …

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    My wife and I do this, but I’ve always wondered whether I’m actually helping or just creating a different kind of inconvenience by not organizing them in a beneficial way.

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    Just wanted to put in a counter for what a lot of people are saying in here, if you’re looking for a “perfect-clone friend” right out the gate then prepare to be lonely as your tests fail… not because they’re horrible people, but because they’re a different person with different experiences.

    The person litters (like @tiramichu@sh.itjust.works suggested)? Probably see’s their entire family litter constantly and never gets comments or maybe even once got reprimanded for saying not to litter to an elder. Just ask them not to when they’re in your vehicle, take into account their reaction and maybe have a conversation about it? (personal experience, just let me friend know it was lame and he stopped doing it. But now his vehicle is a roaming trashcan so I guess take what you can get)

    You can be friends with people who are different or were raised differently than you, it’s actually super beneficial! Now if it’s a constant argument or it’s turned into a negative experience every time and communication isn’t working… it might be useful to move on for everyone’s sake at that point.

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      I’m getting a mixed message here; are you saying people should be friends with people who litter, and politely encourage them to improve their behavior? Or that they should walk away from people that litter? Not trying to antagonize, I’m just not clear what the central theme of your comment is

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        Make friends first without requirements, communicate if an action of theirs disturbs you or makes you feel some kind of way. Learn who they are and why they do things before passing judgement. Let them know your experience. From there, evaluate what kind of relationship you want with the person going forward. But, communicate! the reason why. Allow the ability for people to surprise you and change if they care about your feelings (including allowing yourself to change if they present good arguments).

        People have friends or acquaintances for different reasons and have different philosophies over what’s important in those relationships, mileage may vary.

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          cool lol thanks

          just fyi you keep repeating this pattern: “here’s a specific thing you should enjoy. Later, here’s a general rule which will often invalidate the previous statement” and it’s just kind of hard to follow. but. thanks for the response

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            It helps if you’re not vague when asking for clarification and quote what the issue is directly, the made-up quote doesn’t really help if you wish to get an actual helpful response.

            people should be friends with people who litter, and politely encourage them to improve their behavior?

            My response: Make friends first without requirements

            Or that they should walk away from people that litter?

            response: Learn who they are and why they do things before passing judgement. From there, evaluate what kind of relationship you want with the person going forward (is this a co-worker? Someone from a friend group? What kind of relationship is required to move forward)

            You can make friends…then unmake if necessary. If that’s your confusion.

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              or we can make friends however we want, lol, it’s weird that you think you’re our life coach. let people pick friends however they want buddy, there’s no need to tell everyone else how to live

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                You ok there bud? First day on the internet and you just needed to talk to someone?

                This is a perfect example btw, I didn’t just dismiss you because of your confusion. But now since you’ve just been wasting time for clarification you never actually cared about (only to then try to insult in the lamest way possible online), and your other really horrible posts and comments I can easily move on and not care about this interaction at all!

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                  No I did, and I’m glad. You’ve broken two sidebar rules of my instance and I have cause to ban you now. My users are better off without this toxic, rude behavior and we won’t need any more of it from you.

                  Have a day.

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    What do you do with your shopping cart when you are done? Do you just leave it to fend for itself in the sea of the parking lot? Or do you do the right thing and bring it back inside or to the cart corral.

    The REAL REAL sign though? When someone brings a cart from the parking lot into the store to shop with, ultra move.

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    You’d fail my test if I learn you have tests for people.

    Maybe it’s just a matter of phrasing, but the idea that I could be kind to our server all night, tip well, generally hit it out of the park, but be disproportionately judged for failing to do this one small thing because it’s your personal test? Sets my social anxiety off enough that if I knew that were on your mind I’d probably just say we’re not compatible.

    Obviously, keep an eye out for shitty people, and don’t put up with bad behaviour, but also judge people as people, wholistically.

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      It says the word ‘test’ in the post title, but if it helps I don’t think you need to take it so literally.

      This isn’t necessarily “setting up” specific situations for people, but more like how people respond in normal everyday situations which you might consider to be either red flag or green flag behaviour.

      For me, an example is littering. I’m not so sociopathic that I’d create some trash just to test someone, but if trash happens and they throw it on the ground, it’s a bad personality indicator.

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        Yeah, what you’re saying makes sense. I like “bad personality indicator” as an alternative, since it conveys to me it’s one of many indicators you might process, maybe not even consciously. I’ve just had rather negative experiences being “tested” and hearing that world applied to any kind of casual social interaction gets my hackles all the way up.

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      the server and busser will 100% stack them and grab them by the edges of the plates to keep their hands clean, plates generally arent 100% level surfaces and fully covered in gravy so the issue youre imagining doesnt exist

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      I don’t understand this. At all. Do you let them seat you at a dirty table? Do you think they don’t wash the bottom of the plate? Are you and everyone you eat with flinging food everywhere and somehow getting food on the bottom of plates from the clean table? Please explain it to me.

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        When one dirty plate go on top of other dirty plate, bottom of plate get dirty too. OP no like making bottom of plate dirty, so no stack plate.

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          Except once you’ve stacked it, you don’t have to touch it again because you’re just being nice and not the busser so it still doesn’t make sense. The only people obligated to touch the bottom of the plate after it’s stacked are being paid to do so.

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            OP have empathy and assume other people not like touch dirty plate bottom, even if get paid for it, so goes out of way to not make plate bottom dirty

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      you do you, but if im just chilling talking after i eat, it feels like nothing to me - just something to do with my hands that doesnt feel like work at all and is massively helpful to someone

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        I do the clean up thing just because I don’t like having a bunch of shit in front of me all spread out. I think it’s years of having to clean up my stations and desks so I can actually function so it’s just habitual. We should be taking into consideration that this might not be helpful at all to the worker if these other comments are to be believed.

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    As long as you don’t overstack it. Make a tidy stack that can be carried easily with one hand securely. If you eg put utensils between plates you can cause an accident.

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    My family would get upset if you did that or if the server came by and offered to take the empty plate away. Why yes one of them is named karen. How did you guess?

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    My boomer mother did this. My boomer father was indifferent.

    I do this.

    For the record, the only things that get stacked are things that are perfectly stackable, I don’t put a plate on top of a half-eaten cheese steak or leave utensils in the middle.

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    I usually have a pack of gum and I deliberately start a pattern on how I take pieces out. Usually it’s from left to right, emptying a full row before I move on to the next.

    My test is to offer them gum and see where they pick from. Will they recognize a pattern and continue it? Or will they be oblivious?

    Either way, it’s not a measure of good or bad. It’s just a fun lil test.