• Rose Thorne(She/Her)@lemmy.zip
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    I had a boss like this once! Fucker pushed for overtime every night, argued against taking vacation, and would bitch people out for taking sick days, calling anyone who took time off lazy.

    Turned out he fucking despised his wife, but didn’t want to go through the “shame of divorce”(his words, after she kicked off the divorce).

    Hope that dude stubs his toes every morning.

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      I’ve definitely noticed a correlation of people “married to the job” because they don’t like the person they’re legally married to at home. It seemed to lead to a spike in divorces when the lockdowns hit during COVID.

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        Or they dislike someone else in the home. I definitely had people who loved their spouse, but hated actually having to take care of their kids, so they took tons of OT in order to minimize interacting with them at all.

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        I’m unemployed and my wife works from home 3 days a week. Seems like most weeks she makes an excuse to her boss to work at home the remaining days. I need my alone time, and I made that clear very early in our courtship. Just got in a blowout fight last week over it. My fault as I held my resentment in and blew, but I can’t broach the issue without her feeling rejected. I know because I’ve tried in the past.

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      I was in a similar situation at my first job, except my boss didn’t have a wife and instead lived right across the street from the office. He would say things like “We don’t have a clock-in and clock-out attitude here”. Or one time he kicked off a project where he divided up groups of people and wanted them to start brainstorming ideas for an app we could implement with our product. Except he specifically said we couldn’t work on it during work hours. So guess what, nobody worked on it and Mr boss man was very disappointed in all of us. I’m so glad I don’t work there anymore.

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    The places to watch out for are the ones who have “unlimited” vacation time. That actually means “ooh, now’s really not a good time…”

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      I think there was a company (might have been Virgin?) that did unlimited holiday, but the issue was that people ended up feeling ashamed for taking holiday and so basically ended up taking less than if they were given 25 days holiday.

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      My last contract had that and the first year I barely used 2 weeks. My regional manager started giving us heads up during contract negotiation time that we might not get it. Ended up taking 3 weeks that he approved and felt so good to actually use the benefits that were promised. He was going to retire soon anyways, so he was approving left and right.

      Ended up get hired back at the same place under a different company, and now our PTO and vacation is horseshit

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        How is it “unlimited” if a manager has to approve? They might as well change the description from “unlimited vacation” to “anything from 0 to 365 days a year, whatever your boss (we) says flies.”

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            This is why my previous employer moved to “unlimited” vacation.

            They originally had a PTO-with-rollover plan until one day the CTO went to the president and said, “I have enough vacation days banked to take off October 1 to December 31.”

            They removed the rollover first, but then everyone wanted the last two weeks of the year off. There was never “a good time” to use one’s PTO in other parts of the year and nobody wanted to lose their vacation days. And of course management look like jerks if they “steal” everyone’s time off.

            Now, it’s “unlimited” (pending management approval), so nobody is “losing” anything when management says no to those two weeks as well. You might get a couple of days here and there, but it’s difficult to get a whole week and nearly impossible to get two consecutive weeks.

            Just one of the many reasons why I no longer work there.

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              Three week vacations are not uncommon since we have set vacations days and people actually use them. The company actually thinks it’s a liability to have too much vacation banked and were offered a 2 for 3 deal during Covid.

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      I generally agree with you but my last two jobs transitioned to unlimited while I was there and the amount of time I took off was not impacted at either. Both of these jobs were client focused billable time types of jobs so I do think that has something to do with it, as long as I’m hitting my billable targets and contribution goals they don’t care how much time I have off really. I once took December off at the end of a super busy year.

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      My company is pretty lax, where I live you’re entitled to 20 days paid leave by law but a contractor in my team had unlimited leave and made good use of it, she would travel pretty frequently, but she would still meet all her deadlines so management were fine with it

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      I like my job. If I wasn’t getting paid, I’d still be doing it. Just not for them.

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        Exactly this. I have several hobby projects that use the same skill set as my job, because I enjoy doing it.

        I would quit my job on the spot and spend much more time on my other projects if I didn’t need the money.

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          Same here.

          But I always get told that people need the threat of starvation and homelessness to do anything at all.

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            The same kind of thinking that gets you to people needing the threat of burning in a pit for eternity to behave ethically.

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      Not plus unfortunately as they can include the bank holidays in your statutory 28 days

      Bank holidays

      Bank or public holidays do not have to be given as paid leave.

      An employer can choose to include bank holidays as part of a worker’s statutory annual leave.

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      American here.

      We get less than that. And we got a LOT of small business owners who are pissed that they have to honor that. And like the meme, showcase it like it was a PRIVILEGE for working there.

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        This is all dependent on where you live. Many states don’t have any requirements. If the state focuses on its at-will status, you can bet leave or possibly even breaks is not a guarantee.

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        Yeah, time off varies quite a bit my company, though most seem to give at least 2 weeks of leave, often with no distinction between sick leave and vacation. I get 3 weeks + 2 days (and 11 fixed holidays), and I’m about to get 4 weeks + 2 days, and that’s considered “good” by American standards.

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      American here. Starting January 1st i will be getting 2 weeks paid vacation each year plus major holidays. That’s more paid vacation time than i have ever had in 10 years of working.

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          Even when i had a union job, you wouldn’t get paid vacation until after 1 year on the job, and it had to be taken during either the 4th of July shutdown, or the Christmas shut down. Then after 3 years you would get a second week paid vacation that you had to use during the other shutdown. After 5 years you got a third week that could be used whenever. This is why i always stand with French protestors because the moment you give corporations an inch they demand a mile.

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        My last job gave me so much PTO I never bothered learning how it accrued. I’d often take 3 Fridays off a month.

        My dad was a VP in an engineering firm (1980s). He got two weeks a year, that’s it.

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      so much envy. here in california, you get three sick days. that’s it. no vacation, no holidays. i don’t think i’ve ever had a job willingly give me more, though i know such jobs do exist.

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    “I offered my employees a salary, they then expected the full salary paid out. Miserable, ungrateful wretches.”

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    “I’m an insufferable rich cunt who doesn’t do much at work, I have enough money to pay other people to do everything for me in the rest of my life, so I spend my free time persuing any hobby or interest I want, I’m also very empty inside so spend most of my time working.”

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      spend most of my time pretending to work

      FIFY. Those meetings aren’t gonna conduct themselves, you know!

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    We offered the CEO $550 million as a benefit. A gesture. A show of vision only a Super Board can have.

    Instead, they treat it like a right. Like pay is something they’re owed.

    Some cash those checks. Some have it direct deposited. Different labels, same result, money leaves the company.

    And that’s when it hit me. If you really enjoy your job, why would you ever want to be paid for it?

    Or am I the only one who sees it this way?

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    Even if you love doing something, you’ll eventually want a break. What this guy is describing is addiction. Work addiction is one of many types of addiction that isn’t even seen as such because while it can destroy everything else in your life, it likely won’t stop you from being financially successful and that’s the only measure of success anyone actually gives a fuck about, it seems.

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      You can’t be financially successful if destroying everything else left you with mental health issues that prevent you from working. A work addict can keep on for a while but they’ll crash.

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    Your salary has been made available in your corporate account, but why would you want to use it all and deprive your employer of the extra security a cash reserve brings? Work well done should be its own reward after all. A shareholder cries every time you make a withdrawal.