I know it never could or would work, but every so often I wish there was some imaginary huge tract of land that nobody had owned before…and I guess somehow didn’t affect the environment for all the assholes that want to play power games or pretend they could rule the world or just live lawlessly so they could be silo’ed off from society. Of course it would fall apart, innocent people would somehow end up in there. They’d probably end up attacking the rest of the world and I’m sure a myriad of other terrible problems. But man that’d be nice.
That’s just called the USA
Nah but I’m stuck here., womp womp. I want a place people voluntarily go into. This is not based in reality lol. As I’ve gotten older and learned more about history, I realized what a cursed nation we are though…
As soon as people start having kids, you’re back to square one
Sorry, you’re born too late. You would have loved 19th century colonialism. As long as you could get over the “uninhabited” part of course.
Everybody is assuming I want to take part in this. I want an imaginary zone for all the assholes to go to…
Ive had similar thoughts about racially pure islands. Everyone’s happy. The race-supremacy people get to live among their own and the rest of us are free from their bullshit.
But then the children will have to be raised by racists
Since they’re racists they soon would find other random properties to segregate.
This is it 👍
Even more adventurous and lawless and dangerous in earlier centuries.
As long as you could get over the “uninhabited” part of course.
They sure did back then, easy as pie.
And some very influential people want that era back. Incl. trampling on people already living there. [Techbroligarch “Freedom” Cities]
Yes. Somalia has 1,900 miles of coastline, a government that knows its place, and all the guns and wives you can afford to buy. Why have I never heard of this paradise before?
-Pierce Hawthorne
It would be easier to somehow trick those people into a matrix-style virtual reality where it’s literally the same as the current world at the point where they enter (so they don’t realize). Then they can act out whatever they want to do as they do in the real world with all the consequences, but instead affecting nothing in reality. Having an autonomous zone to act it out won’t work because they won’t be satisfied if the real world they perceive isn’t affected.
So we trick the red pilled into taking the blue pills…
I imagine it becoming a haven for profitable vices like drugs, gambling and prostitutes to make money off tourists.
So you’re saying someone would make their own country, with blackjack and hookers?
Sure. And in my imaginary head canon that is fine and everyone assumes the risk of going into that zone. Once again…this would never work.
So, Nevada?
MDMA legalised there?
Pink Floyd - The Fletcher Memorial Home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDDzR2zSgsM
Spot on. Never seen that one before
Huh I’ve never seen this!
You should watch Westworld! It’s basically what you describe.
Honestly I’m more wishing the opposite was possible. Imagine a utopia to test out, UBI, communism etc… somewhere that capitalists aren’t going to sabatoge and declare war on it while it’s in it’s infancy.
Danish countries.
And…huh, it works.
I guess by “Danish countries” you mean scandinavia (Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland)? Then i regrettably have to inform you, that they are just slightly less horrendously capitalistic. Compared to the USA they probably seem like star trek though, so i get the sentiment.
The ‘freedom’ they want only extends to having the freedom to do what they want regardless of how it impacts anybody else.
The vast majority of these people don’t want isolation. They need other people to exploit. Edit - or they want the freedom to exploit other natural resources (no doubt they see humans as a natural resource to be exploited) regardless of the impacts on other people, now or in the future.
What a bunch of selfish twats!
You might want to read Neuromancer to find out why that’s a terrible idea. If it’s in a cyberpunk world, it’s almost assuredly a giant red flag the author is waving.
To be clear, I don’t want to go to this autonomous zone. I want others to go do their weird shit there ha. But yea I’ll have to read Neuromancer, have heard it’s a good read.
It’s not about living there. The zone still allows for the rich and powerful to exploit people and profit immensely off of it. The world would be no prettier because your autonomous zone; that area would just be filthier.
And thus why this zone is imaginary and would never work and I say it would have terrible problems. I fully accept reality and don’t want this to actually exist. This shower thought was not based in reality yet it seems I wasn’t clear about that.
That was essentially why the US was founded.
But alas we were also assholes the whole time…
Have you heard about what happened when libertarians took over Grafton, NH?
Ha that was a fascinating read. I guess bears are libertarian as well!
You might be interested in the history of Kowloon Walled City after WW2
As a result of the absence of any widely recognized bureaucracy, the city’s residents and businesses had no municipal codes to govern them. Enabled by the enclave’s anarchic nature, trade in banned products thrived, ranging from narcotics to dog meat. From the 1950s to the 1970s, it was controlled by local triad gangs and had high rates of prostitution, gambling, and drug abuse.
Yea that place sounds nuts. My mom was for a time from Kowloon, not the walled city but I’m guessing around the same time it operated which is wild to imagine.
Would you kindly make Rapture a real place?
Are you talking about Rapture from BioShock?