• ghen@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    So I agree with your result but not with the path you took to get there. If we find out tomorrow that there’s some other part of gender or sexuality and people start identifying as that because now their life makes sense with this new label then they should be allowed in even though they didn’t fight or struggle.

    But furries aren’t a sexuality or gender, they’re a hobby. It’s just a fun suit and roleplay. That can be enough to base a life around, but it’s a learned hobby like video games or d&d. Not something they’re born with that would cause persecution along with gay and trans rights

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      9 hours ago

      Not something they’re born with

      Sexuality and gender are a complex interaction of nature and nurture, the belief that homosexuality is exclusively a ‘nature’ thing is predicated on eugenics with the goal of eliminating it. The ‘something they’re born with’ counterargument comes from Alfred Kinsey, et al’s work which showed it’s something everyone carries and so it can’t be eliminated that way.

      Traumas, experiences, medications, etc. can all cause changes to an individuals sexuality and gender often in unpredictable ways.

      Would you be this exclusive of someone who self-identifies as lesbian after an abusive heterosexual marriage?

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        8 hours ago

        If you just want to fuck people wearing wolf costumes then it’s okay dude. You didn’t have to write all that

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          7 hours ago

          You gonna do some introspection on that defensiveness and why you’re trotting out the homophobic “you only support LGBTQ people cause you’re gay” trope?

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            5 hours ago

            That’s not what I’m saying at all. I have no idea where you’re getting that from.

            I’m saying that you are probably a furry and you think your hobby belong in the LGBTQ space instead of lumped in with other roleplay hobbies like dungeons & dragons or LARPing.

            Literally nothing about being gay or homophobia, that’s a completely different subject and the fact that you brought it up means you’re the one being defensive.

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              4 hours ago

              I have no idea where you’re getting that from.

              Let me try wording it another way. You are using a very specific rhetorical ad homenin argument where you first engage in “othering” so that you can then confidently dismiss anything said.

              I was hoping that wording it in a historical context as opposed to a technical description would help you see it without having to spell it out.

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      24 hours ago

      Not something they’re born with that would cause persecution along with gay and trans rights

      yep.