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      It’s higher than 85%. The data shows it’s 95-100% depending on the year. 2022 saw 100% of mass shootings were done by Republicans.

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    I don’t even see this as political, it looks religious. He hated mormons by the sound of it. I’ve always said that if Christians got their wish and everyone on earth that wasnt Christian was gone, they would just begin to hate and kill each other over whatever difference they find next. All the evangelists kill everyone else, they’ll then go on to start killing each other over the color of their hair or whatever. Christianity was born as a persecuted religion so they’re always trying to kill someone and play the victim.

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      It’s just Sneeches with weapons for all time. If it’s not religion, it’s race. If it’s just white supremacists left, they’d wipe out the redheads first and then the blond-brunette wars will start.

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      I don’t even see this as political, it looks religious.

      It’s almost impossible to tease these things apart, most especially within the radical right. They accuse another Abrahamic religion of not being able to separate church from state, and pretending to be scared of “Shariah Law” and then proceed to trying to enact xtian Shariah Law here.

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      we’ve already had a thousand years of Christians killing each other over whether the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Godhead with the Father or from the Father.

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      It’s purely defensive for people to point to the politics of the shooter, I think. I agree you have the motivations pegged here correctly with religion, but Democrats are going to be wary of any shooter being used to justify authoritarian police state shit. Republicans are desperately going to try to paint us as violent, regardless of the facts. Look at what they are trying to say about the MN school shooter and how Kirks shooter was immediately assumed to be left wing before we even knew anything at all.

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      Religion loves a martyr. If you’re not a victim, your faith isn’t being tested, how can you then justify your version of your faith?

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    So this is a “mental health crisis” shooting, and not a “we need to round up the leftists” shooting. Got it.

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        It doesn’t matter what happens anymore. Americas oligarchs spent several decades consolidating media ownership and constructing an alternative “conservative cinematic universe” where reality is entirely irrelevant.

        The base has been indoctrinated with the fascist mental illness by their propaganda machine, and I mean that literally. Conservatives are now a mentally ill population, and de-programming them in any meaningful way is essentially impossible.

        Whatever happens from now on, it will always be <insert any nazi scapegoat’s> fault in their eyes, forevermore.

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        Because leftists drive bigass pickups with giant American flags and a gun rack.

        Well good. Let them spin this. Then they can start second guessing eachother.

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        Nah, they’re claiming that because it was attached to a stop sign it actually meant Stop Trump 🙄

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      No, this is a “Closeted Leftist makes a false flag attack” shooting. And if that doesn’t work, it’s a “Look at what those violent leftists made me do!” Shooting.

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      No it’s another attack on Christianity in America. That’s the line. Never mind they don’t care about mormons

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      But that’s the same thing, being a democrat / against Trump is a mental health disorder, TDS. /s

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      No this is brain washed radicalization shooting. Fox news robots have been calling for violence and these guys have been so programmed by the military so they do not fear death and must follow orders.

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        I think everyone here understands that. The person you were responding to used air quotes implying that’s what the right will view it as.

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    Remember back when we could all agree that people who murder other people were likely mentally unwell and didn’t immediately look to see who they voted for. Pepperidge Farm Remembers.

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      It’s because the right is desperate to throw off the well earned shade that they cause the vast majority of gun-related violence. It’s almost as if conservatives, who are obsessed on only have their world view validated through the the news, get violent when the world doesn’t agree with them.

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      One of my favorite quotes I’ve seen brought up “you don’t have to be evil/crazy to kill someone. You just have to believe you’re right.” - Yoko Taro

      Not that it’s an excuse for anything. This also smells of religion. And people kill in the name of religion all the time.

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          I don’t believe it is. I think that’s rather reductive considering how much it’s impacted human culture over history.

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            I should have clarified.

            Fanatical religious belief is virtually indistinguishable from mental illness to my eyes.

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    There’s no mystery here. During the 2024 campaign Trump promised the militias a race war - he didn’t deliver because war puts oligarch wealth at risk. Now magas’ are taking things in their own hands. That’s why Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk: he was trying to kick start the civil war. Trump is desperately trying to appear war like for his base, while protecting his money.

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    I get the reasoning for it, but this mad dash to “prove” a shooting is the other side’s fault turns my stomach.

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        All shootings are the fault of the country that interprets their constitution to say that everyone, by default, has access to guns.

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      Welcome to the world that embraces division. Difficult situations that would otherwise serve as a punch to the face to snap us out of our (woefully, embarrassingly dumb) stupor and realize we need to come together instead become a fervent race to figure out how we can use it to drive the wedge between us deeper.

      Truly wonderful times ahead!

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          I am just sad that there is a propoganda network hammering out these bigots on the daily. How can you be a stable person in the world when since you have been able to understand the adults, all the news that has been on has been claiming there is the scary nebulous “other” out to get them.

          The propaganda is real and we need to understand that many people are just brainwashed.

          You go somewhere with a poorly run middle school and all you hear on the way to school in your dad’s truck is Rush in the morning. You get to school and all you hear are bad stories from your friends, parents are fighting, Tom Jr’s dad lost his job because the factory said immigrants took them, that liberal bean counter they employ must have made the decision your classmates echo.

          You struggle through classes because not only do your parents not support your education, they are ignorant of any parental teaching responsibilities they have themselves, but even more, they are skeptical of the “liberal education system” itself and give no praise for excellence, in fact they deride people who succed academically. You wonder why you’re in school at all

          Your best relief is gym class, but you get made fun of in the locker room because your clothes are a little tatty. Then the gym teacher who is a big right winger starts up the baseball game and makes fun of the liberal pansises he put in the outfield, not doing much but picking flowers… as is the nature of the game and position at that level. You laugh, a hearty laugh really. It’s been a while since you could laugh at anything, even if it’s someone. Besides, a few of those kids made comments about your clothes earlier.

          Then when you’re home, from the moment you step into your house it’s the same 8 familiar faces on TV telling you who wronged you and why. Sure the enemies aren’t close… or are they? But you get a little relief with each passing word that it’s not really your fault, it’s their fault. An explosive new segment comes down the ticker reel on the TV and your dad shouts "See. They said they are downsizing! I fucking new Tom got screwed by those liberals.

          You go to bed praying to the god your parents taught you of. The god who will listen to you and not them and you hope that tomorrow things will be better and they will no longer stand in the way.

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            We’re two full generations of constant-effort work away from fixing this shithole country, and that’s if we start funding and respecting education nationwide right now. It’s not “brainwashing” it’s a culture of hate and that isn’t going to change without converting their kids out from under them.

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      They get so close to putting the pieces together. One commenter said they were pro-union, because people can’t make as much money as they used to (“a janitor in the '60s could support a family, vacations, etc” to paraphrase the commenter). Kind of missing that unions and pro-worker efforts are a big part of why society had gotten to that point of wages, job security, etc.

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      I looked at a random idiot’s profile in that thread saying “we should be focusing on thoughts and prayers, not placing blame on politics etc…”. Obviously a few days ago he was blaming “radical leftists”. Shocked Pikachu face