• SpeakerToLampposts@lemmy.world
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    “Drawing Bayesian inferences after extensive sampling, I’ve determined that it’s 99-percent certain that anyone who uses ‘woke’ as pejorative will turn out to be a fuckhead. Please don’t blame me for pointing this out—it’s just science.” — Mike Godwin

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    Oh god… Imagine actually accepting tolerance.

    I swear that “woke” is what these fucking troglodytes say when they know they’ve lost an argument. It’s like some sort of primal defense mechanism.

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    It isn’t an insult. I don’t feel insulted by being called woke. I distribute a lot of harm reduction supplies and I get a lot of eye rolling, hard exhaling, shouldn’t they just take responsibility for themselvesing, I had hard times in my life tooing, etc. I am woke. Fuck you gonna do about it? Nazi wimps.

    I feel insulted it is used in the name of bills designed to inhibit help to people in crisis. But I am (maybe) accidentally in a job that wasn’t meant to exist? I don’t seem to report to anybody? So I am going to do whatever I want until they fire me. And what I want to do is harm reduction and crisis intervention.

    Edit: and since the Internet has maybe provided me with a soapbox, I will continue. You can seek help even if you aren’t homeless. It is better you do before that is even a possibility. If you feel substance use is diminishing your enjoyment of life, come for help.

    I do understand hesitation. In some places, this costs money. Even in places these services are free, you feel shame. People are judging you. And — to be honest — a lot of healthcare providers are also judgemental. And I am currently in a small town of fewer than 2000 people. Your private business is maybe going to be everyone’s entertainment. Be strong. Once you do get into the mental health and substance use pipeline, we are mostly good and we are mostly there because we have big hearts yearning to help.

    A lot of the reason I have opted to spend much of my time in the community is to overcome those barriers to access to help. Come say “hi”. I will say “hi” too. Maybe that is the first step. Worst case scenario is we were friendly to each other. Gross!

    And if you are one of those skeptics who have said I am enabling substance users and let me know that opinion— even angrily — water under the bridge; you are not the first person experiencing substance related symptoms; we got you. Don’t let embarrassment stop you, please. Come back for help whenever you like. Seriously, I’m happy to help. I look forward to meeting you (again). And — if you don’t live near me — someone in your area is too.

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    22 hours ago

    The anti woke crowd … hear that it is in someway anti racist

    And dismiss it . They like their racism… It makes them feel important and powerful

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      Bully them into submission, racism and anti woke is not accepted, rather have peaceful people being themselves, than the people getting angry for people loving the same gender or trying to love themselves

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    Hey, that’s just name calling. It’s better to describe them by what they actually are: narcissistic, egocentric, racist, homophobic, misogynistic, narrow minded haters.

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    The same people also see being “progressive” as a bad thing. I swear, if they had they way, we still be amazed at the sight of fire while living in our caves.

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    The opposite of being woke is being asleep and oblivious to what’s going on. It’s crazy people say they aren’t woke and think that’s like a good thing lol.

    It’s like saying “I’m a fucking idiot” and being smug about it

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      To be fair, “woke” as it’s widely known today originated as basically the left-wing counterpart to “redpilled”, with both just being two different words used by different groups of people to favorably describe themselves as ‘enlightened/privy to the real truth that most others aren’t’. It’s “woke” as in alert and aware of the truth, and “redpilled” similarly to how it is in the Matrix—becoming aware of the actual reality of things, taking the blinders off. Fundamentally, describing the exact same state of being.

      So, I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that if you read someone having written:

      The opposite of being redpilled is being oblivious to what’s going on. It’s crazy people say they aren’t redpilled and think that’s like a good thing lol. It’s like saying “I’m a fucking idiot” and being smug about it

      You wouldn’t agree with them, even though the above is the exact same sentiment—the only difference is in what the content of said ‘higher truth’ that one who’s woke/redpilled has become ‘enlightened’ to, is.

      It’s the exact same reason the demographic of people who are against abortion in the US don’t call themselves “anti-abortion”, but “pro-life”. Like the above, it’s a PR move. Would you accept a ‘pro-lifer’ telling you you’re “anti-life” if you oppose their view? That’s the kind of rhetorical maneuver you’re employing in your comment.

      My point is, the self-labeled descriptor is not important, and all sides will obviously use a descriptor that sounds good and makes them sound favorable to describe themselves, so focusing on it is pointless, and just comes off as arrogance. Focus instead on the actual things that “woke” represents—it hits much harder imo to read something like, for example, “it’s crazy people say they’re against healthcare being a human right and think that’s like a good thing lol”, than what I quoted above.

      • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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        a few problems with this comment:

        1. woke is net a left wing counterpart to “redpilled” it’s a term at least 160 years old
        2. anyone who claims to be woke is instantly not woke. you have to earn being called woke by an oppressed person. you can claim to be conscious to aspects of this system of oppression, but you cannot claim to be woke or conscious without instantly demonstrating yourself to be a performative ally
        3. your issue is not with whether or not being woke is good, your issue is with whether or not claiming to be woke is good, in which case, see point 2
        4. conservatives use redpilled wrong just like they use woke wrong. they just generally use any terms of consciousness wrong because fascism is a scam that promises progressive benefits through status quo, an obvious logical fallacy

        your issue isn’t with “woke” your issue is with how conservatives use the word woke, literally the point of the OP

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          woke is net a left wing counterpart to “redpilled” it’s a term at least 160 years old

          Okay, I know when it’s a waste of time to keep reading a comment. This is Advanced Bad Faith, lol.

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            i’m being for real. and that you deny real history and say real history is “bad faith” is terrifying. you’re being willfully unaware of what’s going on around here and declaring yourself to be superior in knowing what’s going on

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      Also a reminder that woke is used negatively by the same people who cannot tell the difference between badly photoshopped letters and a gang tattoo.

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        Twas an obvious superimposition of letters to (likely) lie about the meaning of the tattoo, no?

        Know MANY people saw:

        [Below, As Undisclosed Photoshop]

        After seeing pixels over years I saw:

        Obviously the fact that you & 66 others just in this thread, and hundreds or thousands online are upset about the superimposition, indicate it was stupid/dishonest. Sigh what else is new w/current admin!

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        I think it’s wild that the word ‘woke’ entirely replaced the selective outrage on the 2010s over “CRT,” a bogyman that most white conservatives still cannot define.

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          My stupid ass: “why did the conservatives have an issue with Cathode Ray Tube TVs?”

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          See also: politically correct (PC) and social justice warrior (SJW)…all just fancy ways to call someone a commie pinko bleeding heart socialist. The Red Scare never really stopped, and neither did the Lavender Scare

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          I struggle to understand how you guys in the US missed the signs. I mean… stuff like “they are eating the dogs” should sparkle some doubts, right?

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        I wince any time someone says something like “Wake up!”, “Take the red pill!” etc.

        It invariably means “Start believing the shite I believe”

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    It’s easier too. You don’t gotta constantly be vigilant for the next way the woke industrial complex is trying to indoctrinate you. Because they won.

    They go me already. We’re doing unisex bathrooms? Ok then. Eighty new variants of pride flag just dropped yesterday? Well there’s a lot of new colour combos I’ll forget in 30 seconds but alright. Pronouns can be wholly silent, like the P in Pterodactyl? I cannot comprehend how that works but sure it literally will never affect me in a negative way.

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    Saying a person is woke is like saying they are not a mindless sheep going through life asleep at the wheel.

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    Petition to rename Twitter again, to Twatter. I know, I know, my intellect is frightening sometimes. /s