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As an American, same.
And they shouldn’t.
6/10 Americans won’t trust America again also.
Came here to say this. The last decade has truly flipped my perception of the rest of america on its head. Well, my perception of conservatives, at least. I always knew that people are people and there’s a spectrum of good to bad. I’ve come to realize that Republicans literally do not care about trying to help anyone else unless they see some sort of personal return of either money or power. I’ve seen so many people that I thought were “a good, slightly dumb person misguided by politics” fully throw themselves behind Trump. Everything that they say they believe in is apparently a lie, since they so readily line up to worship a person so antithetical to what they pretend to believe. I can not and do not trust anyone that identifies with Republicans or even conservatism at this point.
The other four need to wake up.
The other 4 never trusted them to begin with
Or they are Maple Maga. We’re not out of the woods yet, we have our own Nazi scum to purge and lance from the boil that bigotry and conservatives have become on our society.
Trust them to do what exactly? Were y’all asleep during covid? You can’t trust humans to put a mask on during a pandemic. But I don’t go into every interaction assuming the worst of the other person. Now if we’re talking about the American government? Yeah that’s a valid sentiment.
Trust them to have basic human decency, trust them to not invade Canada, trust them to rigorously oppose a criminal regime?
As George Carlin said: “Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders.”
They were calling to invade Canada before Trump.
Not impossible but likely very marginal since I’ve never heard of it.
Or any time during NAFTA.
Too many lemmy conservatives left onguardforthee now it’s full of pro US posters.
You figure? You figure people who elect a psychopath who threatens to destroy my country economically before annexing it as the fifty-first state may have lost a lot of trust?
That’s just crazy talk!
Thursday’s poll found that 42 per cent of Canadians said they believe Carney will succeed in negotiating a new trade deal with the Trump administration.
Why? I don’t want Canada to have a trade deal with the USA. I want Canada to isolate the USA. A trade wall, ideally armed with machine guns and flamethrowers. Let them stew in their own juices while we trade with countries that aren’t prone to electing obvious man-toddlers into the highest possible office.
So when your country eventually elects their own little Hitler you’d want the same for yourself? You want the whole world to isolate you and threaten to kill you if you leave. Glad to see Canadian niceness is as hypocritical as ever.
If my country elects our own little Hitler, fucking YES I’d want the world to isolate us until we learned to grow the fuck up. If we elect our own little Hitler, we are a legit threat to the world. We really should be isolated until we can prove we are no longer carriers for the infection.
lol YOU GUYS THREATENED US. OF COURSE WE WANT TO ISOLATE FROM YOU. We literally cannot trust you guys to be tied economically to.
The sheer whining from the USA, like they’re the victims in this, would be amusing were it not such an alarming indicator of just how utterly fucked their worldview is.
Seriously. It’s funny how American liberals like to gripe about how narrow and self centred their conservative countrymen’s worldviews are, but they’re just as bad and just don’t realize it.
I have maintained for well over two decades now that there is no “left” in the USA.
What the USA considers “left” is centre-right in the view of the sane parts of the world. What the USA considers “far left” is “sensible social democracy” in the sane parts of the world.
Yep same.
They make a lot of fucking cool guns though. But the Belgians are no slouches either.
I don’t blame y’all
Yep. I say this as a resident of the United States and it will take at minimum decades to fix the damage that Trump has caused in just nine months. More likely (assuming the US survives) it will take multiple generations to fix the damage from Trumps second term.
As a Canadian- it isn’t “the damage Trump has caused in 9 months.” It’s the damage the US populace at large has done and allowed to be done for roughly 3-4 decades while literally everyone was telling you to wake the fuck up because this was the trajectory you were on.
In response to the entire world trying to warn you off this path, you closed your eyes, stuck your fingers in your ears, flipped us off, yelled louder and started flying your flags more conspicuously.
Trump is one small part of the gargantuan fuckup YOU allowed to happen. Trump is a symptom. A few entire generations of Americans are the cause.
I know, I know. We’ve seen the rot spreading since Regan, but it’s nearly impossible to get rid of when about half the voting public think it’s ordained by god to vote straight republican.
Except when they wanted to travel. Then they traded their conspicuous flags for Canadian ones.
Seconded as another American - the brain drain alone from deterring immigration by conservatives may make that process even longer (or require a new system of governance entirely)
Also the brain drain by actively fighting to prevent scientific research.
Yet another debuff to the pile XD
And that’s only nine months how long to fix the full term damage.
Your second revolution is going to be starting soon.
It already is happening and they are letting it happen. The second civil war well be bloodless if the left allows it. And so far the left seems fine with it.
The left won’t be the first one who draws blood.
Maybe it should. How long will you idly watch the masked goons kidnapping people? Like honestly i do not see a reason for Trump to rush anything more than he does. He is in a very comfortable place, being able to spread his authoritarian powers more and more. I don’t see the point coming where “the left” (as if america has many of those to begin with) revolts against this new breed of fascism. It is not going to get easier over time.
The Left is way outnumbered by Liberals in the US. Unfortunately, their sensibilities matter. They will side with fascists if they feel it necessary to “not be the ones who started it”.
6 in 10 canadians were fucking stupid to trust the US in the first place
Seems four out of ten Canadians aren’t paying attention.
My parents are in this 4 of 10. They watch Fox News, donate regularly to the Republican party even though they are Canadian, they do not donate to the conservative party of Canada (I dunno), call me every time Carney does something they dislike because I voted Liberal, and still spend a good chunk of their time in Florida where they own property and are proud of it.
Trump has become an unpopular subject as my sister will lose her shit at family gatherings so they no longer mention his name. But are big supporters!
“maple MAGA” like your parents kind of fascinate me. I wonder how deep the mentality goes for these people, and how much is just aesthetics and/or a deeply misguided attempt to escape from the relative boredom of a safe 1st-world country whose democracy is still intact. It demonstrates a stunning lack of awareness though, and it’s cute how they don’t seem to realize that actual MAGA would likely reject them out of hand for being “foreigners”.
They spend 6 months of the year in Florida and have a large group of MAGA folk they golf with. My step father is a former corporate COO, he has tons of like-minded friends down there. They’re accepted and welcomed
In my experience about 4 out of 10 people don’t know anything about critical thinking; what it is or how to do it.
I wonder how many of those already had an opinion of the Americans that was so low it couldn’t sink any further?
That is because we actually can’t.
The US has been a shit show since the end of WWII and they’ve fucked over countless countries and people, mostly for greed. It’s laws are mostly setup first for greed, then for humans. Don’t trust that place, whatever president comes next will at best only be marginally better than the current shit stain
Its laws are mostly set up
FTFY. We had good elementary schools; did you go? :-p
So pointlessly rude. What were you trying to accomplish?
This account is always around nitpicking typos with a side of snark. Grammar nazi shit is just so imverysmart with an undercurrent of classism, and I bet they’ve never actually dipped more than a toe into linguistics.
Ah, thank’s for the heads’ up.
What’s your second language and are you as good as most people are with their second language (that is english)? If so, you still are a prick.
that’s completely fair
for all the terrible things both political parties wrought globally from the end of WWII until a Jan 20, 2017, they were united (more or less) in a commitment to being a rules and laws based main even if it hurt “their side” from time to time.
Even Reagan’s “11th Amendment” would be set aside from time to time to preserve America’s standing in the world.
Not so any more. And i don’t actually know if it’s possible to get that reputation back.
This is so heartbreaking. I live on the border, frequently visit Ontario and Quebec, even honeymooned in the Maritimes. It’s hard to imagine that I may never be able to do that ever again, but here we are.
I recall how bad I felt waking up in November 2024 knowing that awful things were going to happen, but alienating our closest ally was not one of them. Stay safe, Canada, I hope to see you again some time.
First of all, thank you to all the kind replies from Canadians to this. It’s one of the reasons I love Canada so much. It’s not going to Canada that I worry about, it’s going back into the US that gives me pause. You just never know what the border policy might be on any given day.
Canadian here close to the border. I used to visit your country somewhat regularly, but I don’t think I’ll ever go down south again. My wife has some extended family in the states and they’ll never visit up here so I guess we just aren’t seeing them ever again. It’s unfortunate but that’s what video calls are for I guess.
As a Canadian, I say come visit still. We’d love to have you as long as you’re respectful and don’t bring pro-Trump speech with you (and given you’re on Lemmy I’m sure you’re the kind of person we’d welcome with open arms up here).
No one is against Americans vacationing in Canada. Many of us chose not to go down because of this stupid economic warfare the administration started. But that’s just business, as they say. It’s about asserting economic independence. Come visit. No worries, buddy.
Seconded. Just make sure your American papers are in order for when you return.
Be, however, on your best behaviour because people are going to have a hair trigger on normal American shitfuckery these days.
“I hope to see you again some time.” Honestly, I hope so to.
It’s really sad.
As a country we decided to get back with our psychopathic abusive ex. And now that psychopathic ex is doing the absolutely typical thing for an abuser: isolating us so we have no choice but to stay with them.
So it’s sad that Canada is totally justified in feeling that way, but it’s double frustrating that it also plays exactly into what Trump wants.
The problem isn’t the psycho ex. The problem is that you keep marrying increasingly psycho people.
Trump is a symptom, not the cause, of the USA’s problems.
It is time for a US and Canadian citizenship exchange program. There are plenty of US citizens that would enjoy life in Canada and the racist neo-Nazi Canadians would relish life in a deregulated red run Oblast.
racist neo-Nazi Canadians would relish life in a deregulated red run Oblast.
…you do know who defeated the Nazis, right? Like in history books for real, not video games. Like, how did that world salad make any sense to you?
Hey I’ve got a great idea: Let’s transfer pro-democracy folks to the country with a weak global standing and military, and transfer all the fascists to the world’s sole superpower, operator of the largest navy, two largest air forces and the largest functional reserve of nuclear weapons on the planet.
Your schools aren’t great either, huh?
America lost in Korea, lost in Vietnam, and lost against the Taliban, which at their peak was 100k insurgents.
If you think America has a strong military you need to stop drinking the kool-aid.
Canada is part of NATO and the commonwealth. America has almost no allies anymore and Canada has the most allies of any country.
Canada is more powerful than the USA.
America won in all those wars. However those wars show that winning the war isnt the end and if you want things to hold you need significant follow up and american support is fickle.
Say what now? Please explain how the US won any of those wars? Last I checked, North Korea is still a thing; Saigon was renamed Ho Chi Minh and the Taliban rule Afghanistan. But ya it was a “support” problem. They never won those wars because no one wants US imperialism.
Vietnam the US completed their military goals and forced a ceasefire then years after US support was withdrawn due to admin switch north Vietnman attacked again.
North Korea had taken most of Korea and was pushed back by the US and with help from the US south Korea was able to stablize and get a ceasefire.
Afghanistan Taliban was removed from power and lost territorial control. Failed due to US not having built up a strong enough base of support and stablity.
You can argue they shouldnt have been and never had enough public support. But war wise they did well in all 3 of those wars and objectively “won” the war. Vietnam was especially hard given the terrain and tactics.
Sure.
As a Leftist, I could never consider Canada as a viable place to live unless they repealed their repressive laws on firearms. UNDER NO PRETEXT.
There is no such thing as a “Left” in the USA. People like you are the poster children for proving this.
There are all kinds of Leftists in the US. Anarchists, Communists, Socialists, and depending on where you draw the line social democrats and democratic socialists. We’re heavily outnumbered by liberals/democrats and we exist outside the Overton window but we’re here.
Wtf are you talking about? I’m Canadian and I own several rifles and shotguns.
I just bought a 6.5 creedmoor rifle and I own an AR-15.
Keep your bullshit fox news propoganda to yourself.
I assume you are referring to how we dont allow mentally ill people such as yourself from owning firearms. Good. This is why we don’t have school shootings
I’m on the far left, i don’t watch fox news. And according to this Canadian source, you own a prohibited weapon https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cntrng-crm/frrms/paf-afa-en.aspx
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cntrng-crm/frrms/index-en.aspx
"On May 1, 2020 the Government of Canada prohibited over 1,500 models of assault-style firearms and certain components of some prohibited firearms (the upper receivers of M16, AR-10, AR-15, and M4 patterns of firearms). "
Yes. A far left gun nut. Yes. That’s a real thing.
🙄
“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary” ― Karl Marx
It’s a restricted weapon not prohibited. Mine is grandfathered in.
Good thing people like you are never allowed to move here.
Keep chugging that americant propoganda and watching those mass shootings everyday.
The American propaganda I got off the Canadian website? Or by American are you referring to when I quoted Karl Marx?
As European leftist: weirdest exchange to read 😅
But your firearms sure help you tremendously rn, while tyrants take over your country. All those upright citizens everywhere who defend liberal democracy with their muskets.
I keep wondering where the second amenders are, fighting open tyranny.
Crickets.
Most Conservatives would rather join Right Wing Death Squads. Their idea of Tyranny is letting single mothers have food stamps.
