Sadly the propaganda campaign to blame minorities and the defunding of education has been a big success. The wealthy are winning the class war, and probably will until most people are starving.
Damn this is crazy relevant. This morning i was at some guys place and instead of a conversation, smalltalk, or shutting up, he rambled about minorities, how he doesn’t care about the climate because people in africa burn tires and how “green people” are ruining the planet. I always find it crazy that people are comfortable to just unload their bullshit on strangers like that. I didn’t give him any indication that i agree with him. I just shrugged a lot and said: “that’s one way to see it.” Or: “haha… That’s dumb”.
Unless you are actively fearing for your health and safety you can not be passive in those situations. You need to at least try and talk him out of that sort of bullshit. He is at the point of being extremely destructive to himself and others to the point where if it’s not stopped now it becomes a health and safety concern for everyone within a few bacon degrees.
The only people who might be able to reach him are those he lets in, in your case literally.
Yeah, and these people are mentally challenged and actively looking for guidance whether they admit it or not. A “friend” of mine got swindled by American propaganda and put some shamefully large amount of money on one of the Trump coins and was fully supportive of him and we lived in Marseille, France! After one or two talks where I mostly just rolled my eyes when he was working hard at rationalizing his idol’s behaviour and background with the propaganda (and after losing money, lol, but it’s a small price to pay not to be corrupted), he actually said something close to “maybe Trump is just like the rest, he just fooled me well” and we ended our Trump talks with a friendly hand on his shoulder and me saying “maybe, maybe, you know what I think about this whole thing”. And this person believes in a “flat but with a sky dome” Earth too, and I really never disliked listening to him talk about all that shit, but in my house we don’t tolerate immoral stupidity/confusion!
Sometimes, I really wish universal voting is not a thing. But it’s hard to think of a filtering metric that is not abusable to attain selfish benefits.
Maybe the lowest hanging fruit, is that on the voting ballot, they don’t list the person’s party, just the name.
I really don’t want to know how many people vote on “vibes”.
“Radicalized”= against facism
I really have no idea what “radicalized” means anymore.
It’s a word that media pundits and hype barkers use to point blame at segments of the population or to push accountability on some group or another.
Is not wanting to date because it’s too confusing to navigate corporate-sabotaged social standards “radical?”
Is being politically aware of issues “radical?”
Is raising complaints about serious social problems like wage theft and wealth inequality “radical?”
These are just things “older people don’t want to hear because they know it’s their fault things are like this.”
Radicalized just means “stop making your parents feel uncomfortable with their selfish choices.”
The right uses radicalized to mean that someone is against the status quo and/or fascism. The left uses radicalized to mean that someone is a literal Nazi and/or terrorist. The center uses radicalized to mean far right or center left
I keep hearing center left, but that liberal nightmare is more of a center right party
Hence why center left is “radical” to them, it’s equidistant
far right - right - center right - center - center left - left - far left
Fry:
This snow is beautiful. I’m glad global warming never happened.
Leela:
Actually, it did. But thank god nuclear winter canceled it out.
See? According to a cartoon every thing works out.
CLIMATE DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! GOODNIGHT!
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
The climate has a way of shutting down global warming if it’s unwanted.
Just say no. Climate change legally cannot affect you if you say no.
It could temporarily. But when the dust cloud settled, it would be back to global warming
Haha but that’s just a stupid cartoon.
Nevermind, i hear people say that every year when it snowed a little. Or that US congress cunt who brought a snowball to prove that climate change isn’t real.
Yea, we just kept adding bigger and bigger Ice cubes into the ocean.
Two reasons:
For most young people, there is no future and they are hopeless, at least here in the US. Their choices are the military, a lifetime of debt, or working multiple jobs at 100+ hours a week to pay for a life that is so price-gouged our grandparents wouldn’t recognize it. Most will never own a home or be able to afford a family, and the older generations consider them a failure for circumstances over which they had no control.
The second reason is that social media algorithms have proven to be both addictive and exceedingly good at modifying the way people think, and people that are always angry and utterly convinced that everything they think is correct will keep their eyeballs glued to ads.
Excellent points. Are there any mechanisms that could reasonably push back that do not involve starvation and violence? I genuinely hope there are and that we find and use them.
Are there any mechanisms that could reasonably push back that do not involve starvation and violence?
If we could get the vast majority of Americans to participate in an economic or general strike, that might. Truly, I wish we could get every American to opt out of Black Friday this year and just buy nothing, because that would turn the heads of people in power and demonstrate our collective power in a positive way.
But I’m not naive enough to think anything short of unimaginable calamity will change the trajectory we’re on. I’m actually keeping a portion of my portfolio in liquid cash on the possibility that the AI bubble bursting causes a dot-com-adjacent drop in the markets.
I often get called an idealist or an utopian, but really. Why couldn’t we have nice things? A world like sci-fi of the past envisioned for the year 2020? Good technology that serves its users and human progress. A food chain that is efficient, ethical, and that has feeding humans as its primary purpose rather than profit. A society that embraces, instead of exploiting, the radically different reality of the information age?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the Internet has changed everything. Humanity has effectively levelled up and gained telepathy. In the beginning it was beautiful, then some “people” figured out how to “create value” out of human interaction and it all slowly went to shit, to the point where I feel like there’s a machine bringing out the worst in us and suppressing the best, all for nothing but the ego of a big room’s worth of people.
But I am seriously asking. Why does it have to be like this?
But I am seriously asking. Why does it have to be like this?
Because the richest people on earth want it to be like this. It makes them richer, and gives them better control of the media.
Yes, I hope that part was rhetorical. Guess my question is, why would we let them get away with it and keep destroying our lives and planet?
I don’t mean this to be a “let’s bring out the guillotines” comment. I don’t crave revenge or violence. I just hope that we can all collectively have a breakthrough and realize we don’t have to put up with this; that we, as sentient blobs of meat zipping through the universe, could just have a pretty good time, or at least try to :)
Capitalism. The worst people in the world have the most power.
Literally the only reason is that capitalism has brainwashed the planet into thinking it’s somehow fair <4000 people hoarded more than half of all wealth on earth, and makes us feel uncomfortable about redistributing that wealth, which at this point is required for our economies to function again.
Real talk: I think the end goal of the internet has to be some kind of democratic world government. The only other option is corporate capture. I don’t know how it’ll work, I don’t know how to solve the problems of ensuring privacy and fair elections or fair distribution of resources or any of that stuff that would have to be solved for, but I think some sort of global, grassroots movement that enables self-governance from the neighborhood level all the way up to global concerns is needed to prevent us from sliding further into entrenched global plutocracy.
And then there are all the young people who are welcoming fascism and the climate crisis with open arms. In the US election, 43% of 18-24 year olds voted for fascism and the destruction of our environment, up from 31% in 2020.
Stupid has no age
That’s cuz the right memes harder.
Who would have ever thought that the youth would find the Republican party attractive? We all knew the opposite was true, but for totally different reasons.
That’s cuz the right memes harder.
No.
It’s because they came of age under presidents of both parties who just ignored their increasing impoverishment, so now they don’t forego a day’s pay in order to vote.
Also didn’t help that Democrats told millions of people who are suffering under price gouging for everything AND inflation to, you know, just be joyful for a whole campaign.
Why would they “think” differently? They’re the sons and daughters of the evil empire of our days and people are mostly sheep. The rest of the world knows what American ethos and cultural values actually mean, only Americans seem shocked about this happening generation after generation…
Is it bad that I don’t fear nuclear war at all compared to the other 2?
Of course not. We are firmly in the middle of crises of fascism and climate. If we don’t deal with both, life will be much worse in the future.
Nuclear war…I mean, whatever you want to say, we are not currently in the middle of a nuclear war.
My thing is nuclear war… I’m probably not even going to know I’m dead by the time it happens. Fascism and climate? I’m gonna know I’m fucked for quite a while before I die.
We’re more in between nuclear wars at the moment.
Well I’m not saying live your life in fear but, yes
We literally should not “fear” any of these things, we have never had a period of history without looming hardships, it’s just that right now we’re far more aware of what those hardships are or will be.
We’re not heading for doom, we’re heading for a state of greater social accountability. Time will tell if this sense of accountability will lead to us better or worse outcomes, but our species and our planet is always changing either way.
The media ideas that we were heading towards a future of shiny tech and unified populations set us all up for a vast realm of disappointment. The future will have some miracles, sure, but it will also have more atrocities, more poverty, more disease and war and evil people doing evil things. As well as new cures, new technology to help people, new ways to interpret our existence and more. It will just be more of everything and it’s on each of us to figure out a healthy way to internalize this scary fact.
I can’t upvote or downvote you, because In some ways you’re right; humanity has never had a time without hardships. But some times and places had it much, much easier than at any other time or place.
We are heading for doom. Regardless of how or when it goes down, our species ends. We aren’t making it off this planet, I can tell you that. Even with a long term base on Mars, it’s supplied by earth.
And that’s an optimistic view. We will not advance enough to make it out of this solar system. And without doing so, we are automatically doomed. You could say that we have that technology within reach, and maybe we do. But we’re not going down the path that would make that technology likely with the time we have left. The biggest economy in the world is turning it’s back on science, and our planet is actively trying to kill us to keep itself alive because of what we’ve done and continue to do.
In fact I’d say that our continuous advances in tech has only a few decades left before climate change destroys our ability to continue our tech. It’ll pick and choose who lives until we don’t have the people left that were needed to get us out of this mess.
We are doomed. It’s just on us to figure out if we can exist as a society for 5 more years, 40 more years, 80 more? 80 years gets us to 2105 where most of our climate goals end. We’ve blown past 1.5C, and showing no signs of slowing down. In fact it’s speeding up. And we’re finding the results are worse than expected, the rate is faster than expected. I don’t think we can get fully off this planet in less than 50 years.
I say 50, because 80 is like, doomsday, it’s over. 80 years from now, you’ll be lucky to be able to send a rocket up with clear weather and a station that wasn’t already destroyed.
So we have 50 ish years to make it to a habitable place outside of earth and make it self-sufficient. We likely won’t even be back on the moon until 2030 or so. Another 10-15 to get to Mars? That’s just a landing. Not a self-sufficient base. Besides, that’s a dead planet. Sure, you could mine ore and ice and make some stuff and some fuel, but not enough to make it to Saturns moons. Even if you could, and you had earths help, are there people knowledgeable enough left on earth to make it happen as people are taken out by climate left right and center? That’s not including malnourishment, opportunity, wars, illness, etc.
This species is doomed. We just need to try to make it as long as we can. That means working together, stopping genocide, minimalizing fossil fuel use, advancing education, equal opportunities, clean air and water, taxing the ultra-rich… But yeah. Sure. That’ll happen in time to save us.
It might surprise you to know I don’t disagree. Other than the timeline, I fully agree that our species is doomed, and that doom will occur sometime within the next several centuries. Humans are a tenacious species and likely we will continue to exist in some state for another several thousand years, but likely in a state of primitive stagnation. We already had thousands of years of primitive stagnation, and back then we had resources readily available on the surface of our world like oil and coal easy to access.
Our civilization is unsustainable though. We will at some point cash the checks we’ve been taking out, and then one day there won’t be food on the shelves anymore, there won’t be gas in the pumps, there won’t be medicine in the hospitals and all the doctors will be gone. Buildings will fall and monuments will rust.
Life will continue in a very Cormac McCarthy-esque slow wind-down into an abysmal, long, dark night.
Despite all this knowledge, I still say we should not have fear or despair. We are here and now capable of forging a better life for ourselves, and arguably, more importantly, we can make lives better for others. It’s a fantastic blessing that we exist in this tiny, slim, razor-edge of technology and wonders and plentiful resources. That’s like winning the goddamn lottery. Do you realize how many people came before us stretching back into the dark haze of pre-history who never had a CHANCE of a better world and a better life? Even if brief?
And we’re not done even after we’re gone.
We will leave behind records. We have probes on other worlds and leaving our solar system, there will be a marker into the long darkness of the future that “we were here.” We did that. We fucking won.
The only reason it doesn’t feel like winning is because life is inherently painful and shitty. That’s just our biology at odds with the spark of sapience that is trying to move past it.
I fucking hate the state of our capitalist techno-feudalism world we’re building, BUT I also know where it’s going. If we can just scratch past this state of abject greed and selfish desires for personal gain long enough, we have a very good chance of creating a scion for our future, a descendant to carry the torch. We won’t have the stars. I already mourned that passing, along with many other idealistic fantasies of youth, but we may send new things out into the void, we may actually create intelligences that don’t require meat and food and money who can learn and wonder about the universe.
Again, it’s a miraculous time, we are on the cusp of so much, if we achieve even a sliver of our potential we will have left behind a fantastic legacy, worth celebrating even while our society crumbles into a cesspit of despair, hunger, drug abuse, greed, pain and intolerance and all the other myriad of factors nature is throwing against us.
Take time to appreciate being here, right now, because it’s not going to last but boy was it strange and amazing while it did. Nothing else on this planet did this much. It’s worth a toast.
Right, I’m not saying humanity only has ~80 yrs left, just society. Humanity could limp along for a few more centuries, but it won’t be a good existence.
Well I’m not saying live your life in fear but, yes
Nuclear war: Don’t worry guys, one way or another, I got this
Yes.
Lol never wealth inequality in these things.
On our current trajectory, there’s 1 generation left where 99% of people stand any chance in hell of owning any kind of property, 2 generations until 99% can afford to do anything but survive.
The ultra rich are buying everything, because that’s all they can do with all their wealth, any of their personal wants and needs are addressed with a fraction of the income from their wealth.
Everything will keep getting more expensive as just the ultra rich compete for assets, driving their prices up. (Not just houses, e.g. farms get more expensive to buy? Food prices go up)
You will keep taking a pay cut in real terms every year, as even if you get a pay rise, odds are it’s not beating inflation.
Fewer people will be able to afford to even take a mortgage, working people who already have assets will be forced to take asset release in order to afford to continue to live.
Before long 100% of all assets on earth will be owned by the 0.1%, and anything you enjoy in life will be either gone or reconfigured to only serve the people who still have any money.
Odds are, you or your children will be living in a slum
There is the tiniest chance the people with all the money will put some of that towards resolving climate change, as they have to live on this planet too, however there is zero chance they will make any moves to reduce their wealth willingly. In fact we see them funding anti-immigration parties instead as that’s a nice easy enemy to misdirect the rubes with. We need to take their assets from them, and wealth tax is pretty much the only way we can do that before we get full fat oligarchy
We need one more frame for the capitalism hug.
I didn’t have enough frames for all the stuff I wanted to put in
We need an even bigger frame for a rogue asteroid with our species’ name on it.
Oh look, all my anxieties together in one comic!
Should we stop calling it climate Crysis? I kind of think it sounds so limited in time and like something you can live through an then have a normal life afterwards.
Please no?
People keep changing the name for this, it’s been through a bunch of names now and each time people act as if it’s something new
Also, one day this will pass… it’ll be a few thousand years from now, but it’ll pass
Let’s call it scorched earth theory
Yes, but they’re also brought up in a post-truth society that values might and selfishness over everything else (with virtue even being repudiated as weakness in the more extreme societies), and nothing in the ideological toolbox of American/Anglo-Saxon/Western European society can actually help them. Also, they don’t care about it because they don’t think they’ll ever have to explain themselves to God on the Day of Judgement, so they have even less motivation to find out if whatever they’re doing is morally right or wrong (they don’t even care about morals in earnest, just about optics and signals). I guess you could argue they could go back to basic and find guidance in Socratic, Platonic and Aristotelian wisdom, for instance, but that will just be an incomprehensible word salad to the average unthinking person, sadly.
Yes and their parents are stupid also.
